From John 6 to NAR: Twisted Scripture & Seven Mountain Mandate

Music Another episode of the William Brannum Historical Research Podcast. I'm your host, John Collins, the author and founder of William Brannum Historical Research at William-Brannum.org, and with me I have my co-host, researcher, and friend, John McKinnon, the author of The Persuasive Preacher, The Gifted Profit, and the Noble Politician. John is good to be back, and I just want to say I'm a little excited for this episode. You pick the topic, and I don't think anybody really has been talking about this. This is so critical when you think of the church today, you think of

the way that things have progressed from Brannumism into many of the different splinter groups and eventually to the NAR. You don't really think about this specific subject, and today we're talking about the 70 disciples, which if you're a Christian, you know the passage, you know what it means, you know everything about it. However, in the Laterane and post-World War II healing revivals, when Brannum was laying down his doctrine, it had a different meaning. It had a completely different context than what other Christians and the Bible says. It's a completely different meaning that he took from it, and where it gets critical is if you understand what he's doing,

and you think of the architecture that he's laying down as the foundation that eventually would develop into the NAR. This is the foundation that keeps people in a cult. They're trapped in a cult, and yet you look at many of the different ministries that are out there today, and you see the way that they have, they all describe there's going to be this great falling away, or in the message we said there would be the squeeze, whatever it is, you're going to have this opposition rising, and you're going to see people leaving our cult. What do we do when people leave our cult? Well,

in Brannumism, you turn it into a doctrine, and you take a passage of scripture, and you rip it out of its context, and that's what we're getting into today. John, we have an exciting show today, and what we discuss will tie into several things and tie several things together in the message, and also the New Apostolic Reformation. Again, we're going to show another example of how William Brannum twisted and misrepresented the scriptures just to suit his own purposes, and we'll also show how he evolved this belief over time using the same scriptures and how this one scriptural passage

evolved, and was used to support. his manifested sons of God, you know, theology, and also support who he believed was going to be in the bride and who was not going to be in the bride and so forth. So he really, and that's what we find him doing time and time again. It's just misrepresenting scripture to teach the core beliefs that he really held to. So there are many ways to look at the ministry, William Brown. I mean, depending on how long you've studied it, you know, and this is just one picture of it over time. You know, you begin to see the big picture and

then you put all those little pieces of the puzzle together from the real history that you and Charles and others and myself have dug up. And that's not known by the believers of the message. Then it paints a much different picture. And in fact, I believe it paints a very dark picture of the whole thing. The whole movement really becomes tainted as we see clearly, you know, how people who have come in contact with Brannemism or William Brannem and his ministry, but while he was alive, they got inspiration or got their inspiration from him and then how they launch out into their own ministries and doing much of the same things he did

just sometimes in little different ways. And in fact, most of them do misinterpret scriptures. They only use as much as the Bible as that will support the movement that they're in. They point to themselves as God's great man of the hour, woman of the hour. And they also are given out to the people that there's some special teacher and that listening to what they say alone will lead them to the Promised Land. So they all have this inner desire, desire, I believe that they won't followers. And you know, Brannem was no different in that respect. I believe he

truly wanted, you know, a core group of followers. He really wanted the whole Christian world if he could get him under his wing, but he took what he could he could get out of out of his ministry.

He one of those followers that were true believers and lieutenants, you know, in his message to serve him, you know, while he gave them the pretense that they were really serving Christ, you know, by serving him. He accomplished this, you know, carefully given out lots of lip service to the how true the Bible was. He always did that. And I'm sure he probably believed that.

But then how much of what he followed what the scripture said was something else he kept saying, well, I only follow what the scripture say, I only taught what Paul preached. So he gave a lot of lip service to that. And he also pointed out how much his ministry lines up with scriptures entirely.

And even now by vision in his late 1950s or so, he had a vision of the bride and how the people said they were resting on what he preached and his theology. And so now he had a vision, you know, confirming that he was teaching exactly the same thing Paul taught. But you know, as we do a careful analysis of his ministry, I believe it proves the exact- act opposite of what true Christianity is.

You know, no matter how much acting he was at, you're able to do, how much supernatural you're able to have in your ministry, how much lip service you even give to the Bible and how much use it to try to support your beliefs.

You know, what happens when the real challenge comes is that that really proves what the message really is. You know, and when the message is challenged, you know, it just can't withstand it, comparing it to scriptures.

And then as we were showing it here in these podcasts, it just cannot withstand the challenges on what qualifies a person to even be a prophet. And it cannot withstand even the common challenges on what claim was actually took place in the ministry, such as raising people from the dead or even healing the sick.

And we find many of those claims, you know, just were not well-founded and they were just exaggerated quite a bit. And we're talking about supernatural claims also, such as the cloud that we've had the episode on recently and about how they would pronounce massive amounts of people healed, you know, which were not.

People would even pronounce heal with thus say, if the Lord, and many of those even failed and many of those died as a result. But what I believe has been done by, through this movement, we call the message is that it's created a deceptive movement and it's created a platform for the other movements and many movements to come, both within the message, created multiple sects of the message.

And I was also, as well as outside in the broader charismatic world, you know, in creating this new apostolic reformation, it kind of laid the foundation and the groundwork so that that could be produced.

And that's a lot of the fruit that came out of it because, you know, one man here was proclaiming himself to be something and he really paved the way to show how, how getting a following can be done and how you can present yourself in such a way as to make people believe you.

You know, there's always men and women with aspirations who have seen the potential in using Christianity to defer to their goals. We even saw that in scripture, Simon the Sorcerer, he saw how the apostles were working.

And he also offered them money, you know, so that he could do that same work that they were doing. You know, he saw Christianity only as a way to use it to further his own goals of trying to be which the people.

And these people have also done the same thing. You know, they don't really have the gospel in mind and they don't have a good handle on the scripture except what they've been fed by their mentors, you know, and who are doing the same thing that they are.

Same thing William Brennan did. He had mentors, he mentored a lot of people, but they ended up going off in all kinds of different ways, you know, doing basically the same thing he did just in much different ways.

But once they've... come popular among the people, then they usually get worse over time. And either they follow into the idolatry of money or moral failures, or even the idolatry of self and self aggrandizement, building up their own selves in front of the people.

And the worst of this probably is that they are self deceived, most probably don't even know that they're self deceived. And they believe in themselves so strongly that all that energy they have in themselves transfers to the congregation.

And then they become deceived into listening to them. That's exactly basically what happened in William Brown's ministry. And that's one of the things that William Brown did. He really believed, I think, that he was the last great prophet of the day.

And his private study of scripture, you know, without the proper guidance, really carried him down a dark path that led to this error. It did. It's one of the topics that Bob Scott and I've been talking about in the series that we're doing.

You can only be at that superior level for so long and keep the people excited for so long until people just get tired of it. You always have to have something new. You always have to have a means to control them, to manipulate them.

And what happens when you're in that type of environment? It's a very high intensity. You're constantly trying to keep yourself in this emotional state of being that people just simply get worn out. That's why they look really tired.

A lot of them look sickly when you look at a person who's in a cult. It's because mentally they are so exhausted from all of this. And what happens is there are people who will quote unquote fall away.

And every cult leader knows it. It's the cult leader's biggest enemy because when people start to leave with them, leaves their tide. And you know, that's essentially what it is. Because a lot of people say that he didn't have a lot of money.

He wasn't after money. And that may be true. He did have millions of dollars when he died, even though most of the cult would say that he didn't have two pennies to scrape together.

According to Sarah Brannum, he died with millions. So there is a money aspect, but there's something else with regards to a cult leader. It's not just the money. They feed upon having people who will worship and adore them.

They, as narcissists, they love to take the body of people and put people against people. And that's what this doctrine does. You start thinking, well, there's going to be this great falling away. Who is it?

Is it the person next to me? What if the family over there, they're not obeying the cult rules or whatever? And you start to develop what's like, I hate to use the phrase because in today's world it's ruined, but it almost starts to a witch hunt because people will start to look at other people.

They start watching other people in some extreme cases. They even start reporting on what other people are doing because they're the ones who are going to fall away. And that's, let's literally what this does.

The problem with Brannum, once he got to a certain level, not only was he struggling to keep the Colton tact, he was getting turned away left and right because people were recognizing that he was trying to be a Bible teacher and he wasn't.

He had no idea what was in the Bible as we'll get into this 70 disciple topic that we're getting into today. You'll just see that he had no clue. He took a phrase out of context from one book and ignored the entire rest of the gospels to do it.

So the church was falling away from Brannum. With them came a lot of his cult members were just leaving and you have to have a response to this. The natural cult response is to attack the people leaving rather than try to change and attract people to stay.

And that's what we're seeing here. You know, that's so true. John, as we go through this, as we said before, you know, the popularity of Brannum began to wane around 1953 and kept continuing to be on the down slide.

He began to really push his life story a lot and the visitation of the angel to really try to support, you know, his supernatural claims. And I want to send a read a quote here in his life story that he spoke.

And this was in 1955 and January 17th, how the angel came to him. And he's referring to the picture that was taken in Houston when he's talking about this quote. And he's also saying some of the things that the angel was telling him and how this meeting with this angel has now will lead into what we're talking to today.

So he said, as he was meeting that angel up there, he said, then that night up there when night he referred to that, how about the angel referred to that? I asked him, and he's talking about the supernatural things he was doing in his younger life.

He said, I asked him, I said, well, why is it that all mediums and things like that and them devil possessed people always tell me about it. And the clergy, my brother, and tell me this is how the evil spirit, he said, now listen to what he said, he's talking about the angel.

This one who is hanging over there in the picture, and you know, he puts some emphasis on that picture and what we call the pillar of fire over his head, and which we've shown that, you know, it's a light hanging in the Houston Coliseum that the camera took the picture of it, the light did strike the lens.

But as we've seen over the heads of other people, including the beetles and other people in Houston Coliseum, the same lights also appeared over their heads. And in fact, their pictures are much greater than the one that that William Brannum had, because their lights are as much brighter, and there's several pillars of fire over their heads.

So, but he's referring to that being the angel. And he said, as it was then, so it is now he began to refer to me that, you know, when the ministry of the Lord Jesus Christ began to take place, the minister said he will us be else above. So he said, they get so sour down on theology, we don't know nothing about the spirit. He said, I hope you love me after this, but that's what it is. I mean Pentecost too. And he's talking about personal contact face to face. That's what you need.

So way of random is all about the supernatural, about having experiences with God and not even considering what the word says, you know, in fact, he would he would capitalize on the spiritual experiences way above the word. And we find him doing that over and over again. And he just said that the ministry misunderstood it. And he says, well, what about these things that happened to me? And he says, you see that I'm multiplying it greater and greater. And he said, and he referred to me to angel, referred to him, telling me how Jesus did it, how that he come, how he was possessed with a power that could foreknow

things and tell the woman at the well, claim not to be a healer, claim to do those things just as the father showed him. And he said, what kind of spirit would that be? That would be the Holy Spirit. So, so we and Bram may have been doing some things he was doing by the Holy Spirit, but that did not mean that he was a great prophet of God for this age with a message, of course. And of course, the angel was telling him it was the Holy Spirit doing it. And he was possessed with a power to do it. And then he realized that that's

what God brought him there for. Now, now listen to what he says next. And this is where he indicates to me that he's says he's going to ignore what anybody else says and just interpret scripture the way he wants to. He says, and I realized that it was just like those Pharisees and the days gone by, they had misinterpret the scripture to me. So from then on, I took my own interpretation of it. Now, that's a pretty pointed statement there.

He got fed up with all the people telling him it was this or that. And he shouldn't be going after those things that he was doing. And then he said, so from then on, I took my own interpretation of it. But he adds after that, because realizing that he couldn't just say, well, I'm going to interpret scripture way I want to. He also said, what the Holy Spirit said. So he's claiming that, well, I'm only going to take interpretation based on what the Holy Spirit says. So, and then he said, he went home a new person after that. Now,

what we see happening in William Brown's move it during this time and now even during the New Apostolic Reformation is the misrepresentation of scriptures to suture on purpose. You know, once he has settled in his mind that I'm not listening to anyone, but what I think the interpretation of scriptures is that opened the door to where we were seeing he's going to lead to today. And everything we've been talking about so far in our podcast. And the passage in the gospels is what we're going to focus on today. And there is a specific passage that speaks about 70 disciples

that received the power from Jesus to grow out and healed and sick. And the way, you know, William Brown, I'm interpreted that in the way he's fun that to try to make it look like it related to his ministry. It's kind of amazing and it's very deceptive and we're going to go through that in detail. But that's a huge example of William Brannum using the scriptures to support his claims. The 70 disciples that Jesus commissioned was used to support the reasons he was losing popularity among the church world. He didn't focus on the fact that he just displayed to the world of false prophecy in his failed India trip for which

he took up offerings all across the United States. So in 1952, we know and we'll go through this vision later on that he had this vision of going to India or Africa and how 300,000 souls will be saved. Right after that, he went throughout the United States, prophesying it, saying it was thuseth the Lord collecting offerings everywhere when and we can show that on tape where he solicited offerings, you know, to help with this trip. Well, just after that, you know, that prophecy didn't come to pass as he expected it to. And so then what he did after that, after the people started

leaving him right after that, he started twisting the scriptures to use it as a false type, you know, why people were really leaving the message and telling that to his core believers. He was liking himself to even Jesus and tried to make it similar as to why people were not believing his message because he was here bringing the word as Jesus brought the word and people didn't believe Jesus. So therefore he's he's doing like Jesus did and people don't believe him. So they're leaving him. He either just convinced himself that was it just to so he wouldn't have to measure up to what,

you know, people were asking him to do and that's come back to the scriptures and stop teaching it wrongly and even stop being a teacher altogether. So I don't know whether he honestly didn't understand the scriptures or whether or not he did or didn't. He certainly intentionally used this tactic to show how people were once his staunchest believers could fall away from his teaching.

He used it to blame the Pentecostals for leaving him and his message and he was all the while claiming to have the true word, true interpretation and true vindication and the Pentecostal world really started seeing through the facade. And once he saw this happening his only course of action was to retaliate and to find some reason behind their leaving. He refused to be corrected at this point, even Gordon Lindsay, you know, said later years that we read him and told him he wanted to teach and all his managers were warning him not to teach but he was too stubborn and he pushed that

agenda anyway. So here's where I get to put on my theology hat for a moment. I'm I've mentioned before I'm not a preacher. I don't try to be I try to avoid theology in the podcast if it all possible and stick with the history. However, there are times whenever history does align with Bible text and that's what we have here. I you know, I again, I'm not a theologian. I don't try to be but I have read the Bible many many times and when you read Bible, and you understand what is being said, a common non-theologian person like myself

can understand many things that are in there without diving into theology. My son, who, you know, younger son could read the Bible, and he can understand more than William Brannum, interestingly, just by reading it.

And whenever you get into topics like this, where William Brannum is taking a Bible verse and he's ripping it out of context, to a person who's never read the Bible, that kind of works.

But to a person who has read, and you say something that defies the rest of the Bible, in plain text, you don't have to be a theologian. And what we're talking about here is there are milestones in history given in the gospels.

Whenever an event happens, it might only mention that event in one gospel, but then the next event happens, and that next event might be mentioned in another gospel, and then you can align those two timelines.

So what we're talking about here, Brannum decided to use the, there is a defection of people who were with Jesus that happened in John 6, and Brannum wanted to use that to whip his congregation and say that some of you are going to leave me and be afraid.

That's essentially what was happening here. But then what he tried to do is tie that to a different verse that doesn't fit in the timeline. It doesn't line up. He's trying to say that there were the appointed people, and of the chosen ones, which is what he was trying to say, there was a great falling away, and that's how he applied it to his cult.

But if you line up all of the timelines, and John 6, there was the defection, like he said, but the sequence goes like this first. Jesus sends out the 12, and all four gospels record the feeding of 5,000, so you can align that point in the timeline.

And then there's this point at which many disciples leave. That's what he's talking about in John, I think it's John 6. And then Jesus addresses only the 12 when he's talking to them. But you have other events that follow, like Peter's confession, the transfiguration, et cetera.

And only after all of those events, and I think it's Luke, maybe Luke 10, at that point, Jesus appoints the 70 who return with joy. So you had the great falling away, several events, and then the 70 come back filled with joy.

There isn't a falling away of the chosen ones, but that's what he tried to do. Now fast forward to today's world. Once you lay the framework where it is an us versus them mentality, that's what Brandon is trying to do here.

And of the us, we can't trust ourselves because some of us are not going to stick with us. Some of us are going to fall away. That is the clear definition of how to...

control your cult. Whenever people leave, you don't want the other people to ask questions as to why they leave. Instead, what you want to do is you attack those who are leaving, because it's an us versus them scenario. Once they leave, they're no longer of us, they become them, and them are bad and they're called. So that's why when somebody asks a question and they leave instantly, they are the brunt of brutal attacks from the pulpit. That's essentially what happens. And that's what's going on here. Brannum ripped a verse out of context. It doesn't line up if you read the gospels. And I have come to the strong conclusion after studying Brannum

for many, many years at this point. He had never read the gospels. I do not think he had read them. If he did, he purposefully lied about what they said. So that's my conclusion, but the way in which that developed into the NAR is interesting, because if he didn't read them, and he laid down all this groundwork of theology, think of all of the ministries that were built on top of this. The built on something that wasn't even the Bible. It was literally built upon the foundations of what it takes to make a destructive cult. So John, yeah, to carry on with how,

where Brannum once he started, people started leaving him. He had to come up with some reasons why scripturally, well, why are these people leaving me? It's got to be because I'm teaching the truth, and just as Jesus taught the truth, and they left him, well, I'm doing the same thing and they're leaving me. And we'll find out in later episodes what this real truth really was. He was teaching.

And it all has to do with the manifest sons of God theology. It all has to do with Christ coming down and manifesting himself in a man that the people now believe has got himself in a human body.

And that gets very dangerous as well. So what we're talking about if refers back to Luke chapter 9,

where he gave power to the Twelve Apostles. Now he did that first. And then the amazing thing, and it serves as like a timepiece for the Gospels, is that all four Gospels accounts. Now, in Luke 9, 10, and Matthew 14, 13, and Mark 6, 30, and John 6, 1, they all refer to the feeding of the 5,000. So we read in Luke 9, 10, it says, when the Apostles returned, they gave an account of him of all they had done, and that was after he had given power to them, taking them with him, he withdrew himself to a city called Bessedia. And John 6, 1 records this,

it says, after these things, Jesus went away to the other side of the Sea of Galilee, or Tiberius. So each of the Gospel writers are saying this in a little different way. But the Sea of Galilee was also called Lake Tiberius, Ganesirat, Lake Ark.

Kinaret Lake. It's a fresh water lake in Israel. And of course, Jesus was calling his 12 apostles aside just to, you know, get away and risk for a while. And then the multitude saw them going out.

So they were heading, you know, toward Bethesadia. And they called him there when he got off the boat. And so Jesus having compassion on the multitude, you know, basically taught them and then eventually fed the multitude. So that miraculous event is recorded in all four gospel serves as a marker of the timeline. And we see that as John 6 is when this happens. John 6, 1 to 14. And this is way before the 70 disciples were commissioned. It's, and it's a long time before the scriptures that William Brannem is used to show that people are moving away from Jesus, which is in John 666 as we'll see.

But right after this feeding miracle, you know, Jesus sends them disciples out on a boat. And then he walks on water and gets in the boat with his disciples. And the people met him on the other side.

And they they wondered how he got there. And because they were still seeking Jesus. And they didn't realize that he had walked on water and got on the disciples boat to the other side. So Jesus, of course, meeting them there were near cappernum. So it says that he went into a synagogue and cappernum and taught the people. And this is where this is right after the feeding the 5,000. He had gotten in the boat. Disciples had gone across. He had gotten in the boat with them. The people met him. And then he goes into cappernum to teach him in the synagogues. Now while he's teaching them,

he's speaking on the bread of life and how he's the bread from heaven and how he said, except you eat the flesh of the son of man and drink his blood. You have no life in you.

Now this is the time that in John 666, where it's recorded that some of the disciples fell away. In fact, in John 660, it says when many of his disciples heard it, they said, this is a hard say and who can listen to it? And it says after this, many of his disciples turn back and no longer walked with him. So Jesus also said to the 12, do you also want to go away as well? Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life. So let's remember what's happening here. This is well before the 70 disciples were even commissioned in Luke

because Luke, all four gospels have recorded this miracle. And so right after that is when we see these events happening that John records. And then we see the disciples that leave Jesus. Now the disciples couldn't leave Jesus at this time because they weren't even commissioned yet.

But remember what the word disciple means? And we went over this in the last episode, I believe. It can mean a true follower of Jesus Christ. It can also mean a borderline follower of Jesus. But it really is just a learner. It's a follower of any certain teacher. You can be called a disciple of John. You can be a disciple of Apollos. You can be a disciple of anyone. It's a follower, but not necessarily a true believer. And it doesn't mean you're born again. It doesn't mean you're a Christian. And that's why Way of Brams assertion that

the 70 walked away, you know, after Jesus said, except you eat my flesh, it's really contrary to scripture, because it wasn't even in the timeline. But it was just a simple way for Brantum to just try to parallel his ministry with Jesus and provide a justification to the people for leaving him because he claimed to be preaching truth. You know, Matthew, if you go to Matthew 16, Mark 8 and Luke 9, this was even before the 70 disciples. It records Jesus of asking, who do men say that I am? And that's where you get Peter's,

you know, great profession that they are of the Christ. And Luke 9, 27, Mark and Matthew, I'll say this, someone not tastes death till they see the kingdom of God come with power. And then right after that, you have Peter's confession, you know, they aren't the Christ.

Of course, he already said that. And then you have the transfiguration, you know, right after that. And that's still before the 70 work commissioned. So, and that's in Luke 9, 28, when the transfiguration occurred. And then we come to Luke 10. And this is where the 70 work commissioned Luke actually says 72. But it says after this and Luke 10, 1, after this, the Lord appointed 72 others and sent them on ahead of him, 2 by 2 into every town and place where he himself was about to go. And he said to them, the harvest

is plenty full, but the labors are few, heal the sick and say to them, the kingdom of God has come near to you. So, so we see that Jesus was going down toward the end of his ministry and all these great things had happened. And now he's commissioning others to carry his message forth. And, but William Brattam wants to use his story and go back to John 66 to say that the 70 disciples were there and they were the ones that left him. But I say that's impossible, because listen to what Jesus says to the disciples when they come back

and Luke 10, 17. He said the 72 returned with joy, saying, Lord, even the demons are subject to us in your name. In verse 20, he said, nevertheless, do not rejoice in this, that the spirits are subject to you, but rejoice that your names are written in heaven. You know, in that same hour, he rejoiced in the spirit, Holy Spirit said, Father, I thank you, Lord, heaven and earth. You hid these things with the wise and understanding and revealed them to little children. And then turning to his disciples, he said privately, blessed are your eyes that you

see, where I tell you that many prophets and kings desire to see what you see and did not see and hear what you hear and did not hear it. So we see John, Jesus emphatically says their names are written in heaven, and I'm fixing to go into a few details about that as well.

I know it's overused, but a lot of people use the analogy of building a house, and whenever they're talking about people who are going all different directions and trying to build the house, the house can't stand, it just falls.

But this is different. This is laying down the foundation for what would develop into the charismatic movement eventually, the NAR. This is more like a roller coaster. If you have a person who is building the very foundation for that roller coaster, and doesn't understand the architecture, hasn't read, in our case hasn't read the Bible, doesn't understand what's in them, and just starts building in one direction, and then people come trying to build on top of it.

If the foundation is false, you can't really trust what is built on top of it. It turns into a big, big mess, and more than that, it becomes dangerous, and if you look at the fruits of Brannem's ministry, look at all of the different splinter groups and cults, some of them benign, some of them who actually have committed suicide in the name of their group.

We have all different arrays of what can happen if you build on top of Brannem's foundation. In a roller coaster like this, you just simply wouldn't want to get on it. However, because it's almost become mainstream, some of the things that Brannem has taught has almost made it into mainstream Christianity because it is so widespread adopted.

So many people have adopted it that it has become common, and they don't really realize that the roots of that doctrine came from a foundation that was from a man who literally had not read the book.

When you're on a roller coaster like this, you don't know where it's headed, you don't know if it's going to stand, you don't know if you're going to die, you could die, and it turns into this ride that you don't want to be on in the first place.

But with the doctrine twisted like he said, people who are on the roller coaster who realize and recognize, hey, this thing's swaying, there's something wrong here. They don't understand that the foundation was false to begin with, but they're being taught that anybody who gets off the roller coaster to safety are the bad guys, not the person who built the roller coaster.

So this turns into a ride that, quite frankly, I don't want to get on. So yeah, John, I'll tell you, this is a wild ride, and you could just take any of, say, Brandon's messages and go through line by line and how he taught scripture.

Many of those, of course, correspond with scripture. But you can find some real things in there that he said that just were contrary, so this is just another teaching. There's actually another teaching that he espoused, and other than his 70 disciples teaching, it's extremely contrary, but it was kind of, it was based off the 70 disciples.

It was based on how he construed that, but it's extremely contrary to scriptures and the gospel. And I can't get into really all the details of it today, but we'll show it later on.

That's teaching. of him claiming that the 70 disciples turned away from Jesus after Jesus had proclaimed their names were already in heaven, written, is at the very heart of this false teaching, which I'm about to say, you know, you know, Brannum began to separate his movement so much from mainstream Christianity to really prove his teaching was different, and that really only a very small group will hold on to what he teaches, and that he also now begins to introduce his teaching to say to say, have to say that people with their names in the book of life can be removed. You know, he, he's, he's still in even more fear in the

people by saying that by teaching that, well, your name can be on the book of life and be removed if you're not accepting the true word. So, so what it does is it paints a picture that really, I've got to be extra careful, I believe, every word he's saying, if I believe he's a true prophet, or otherwise, my name might be removed from the book of life.

So you can see how damaging this, this is to a Christian believer, and I believe if people are reading, this is found in the church age book in the Sardisian church age, and if people that read that and have studied that, you know, I can see why they would fear for their lives, you know, after I have reading, reading that, and they'll, they'll be very confused coming out of it, and I want to go into the details later on about it. But in the Sardisian church age book, this is a quote, he says, we will actually show by

scripture that multitudes who are not even born again will go into eternal life. And that's kind of an interesting statement, and I would say it's very contrary to scripture. But he says, that strangers that may sound, it is certainly true. We will also show that there's a group of people whose names having been placed on that record before the foundation of the world. He says, cannot under any circumstances have those names removed. He says, but we'll also show that another group whose names were on that record before the foundation of the world will have their

names removed. So that's exactly in line with what he taught about the 70 disciples, you know, Jesus declared their names were written in heaven. And now he's saying that there is people whose names are on that record that can be removed and they will be removed. So here's another quote in the Sardisian church age, he says, the book of life is definitely located in heaven and will appear at the great white throne judgment in these verses. Jesus said their names were written in heaven. And he's talking about the 70 disciples here. He says, they were written in the book of

life where that is where their names were placed. Jesus was speaking to the 70, but he was also speaking to the 12. Now here's an interesting twist on scripture here by by him saying he was also speaking to the 12. I believe we'll find something interesting there. Cause in John 6, 70 to 71, this is right after he was not, of course, we know in John 66, he was not speaking to the 70 because they haven't even been commissioned yet. But He was he was definitely speaking to the disciples that had left him and the twelfth because it does say in John 6, 70 to 71

He says Jesus answered them having on a chosen you 12 and one of you is a devil and he's spake of Jesus Judas is scary at some Simon for it was he that we should betray him being one of the 12 So so Brannum's trying to use these scriptures in John 66 to say While he was telling the disciples the 70 that their names were written in heaven that the 12 were part of it as well as the 70 being would in John 6, 66, 66 when the 70 weren't even there So he's trying to tie the two scriptures together when they're totally you know separate by the timeline if you look at it

Of course in Luke We've already said that Jesus had said their names were written in heaven So again, you know nothing in scriptures definitively say that he was talking to the 12 Disciples there Accepted in John 6 verse 70 and 71 And we just showed that John 6 takes place well before Luke 10 does You know, Brannum is teaching error, but no one realizes it because it's all what he says sounds very scriptural because he's Going to one book of the Bible then going to another book of the Bible But by him taking a misplacing the timeline of the scriptures

That's how he created this new doctrine or created something to support his doctrine You know, it says that God will in fact remove names which are written in heaven on the book of life They'll actually remove them altogether so Here he says in the sardisian church Also said make no mistake about it a person that is truly baptized by the Holy Ghost into the body of Christ receiving the fullness of the spirit will be in the word all the way And I know he's referring to his word that he's teaching all the way He said that is the evidence of being baptized with the Holy Ghost

He said Judas failed multitudes fail right there and when they failed to go on in that word Their names are taken off the book of life Also, he says in the sardisian church age he says all these people had their names in the book of life and their names remain But whose names did not remain those of the world system churches who fault the bride Will be those whose names are removed That is who will lose out they will be cast in the lake of fire So we see what he's saying here He's saying anybody against the bride and who and the bride is the only one that follows his message

Will be cast in the lake of fire and those are the ones whose names are going to be removed So now he's built in his case For a message that is exclusive And that one must believe to even be in the bride of Christ so He also says this is kind of interesting he asked to mention that people must be very confused right now when they're reading the sardisian church age He said since this portion of the word is hard for the human mind to grasp It must be accepted and believed by faith So what he's asking you do now is just take a blind leap of faith and take everything he's saying is to be in the say of the Lord

And again, that's a very dangerous proposition John. It is dangerous and here's where if people understand the foundation of this They would just run screaming if you understand that it is this exact foundation from which developed the word of faith movement Brandham called it the spoken word Jim Jones who is in this cult called it the spoken word What they're doing is whenever they take their own interpretation that's outside of Bible context They try to add their own personal revelations reflections Sometimes they brandham would say it's thus say at the Lord and he would try to add something that God is saying in the here and now

For the verse that was ripped out of context and then blend those together the marrying of those two The verse that's ripped out of context and the quote unquote divine word from the Lord when those two get married together It becomes a different and new thing. It isn't the Bible It isn't even you know, it's definitely not from God But it isn't even what the people are expecting when they hear that passage of scripture It's taking it to a new direction that the cult leader can take anywhere they want Because they've created something new it is a new in this case. We're talking about the gospels

This is a new gospel. It's not in the original. So once it goes into that Development that architecture. It's the architecture of a new gospel from which other things were built on top of For the sole purpose of allowing the speaker in this case brandham But in other cases you can carry this as far forward as you want to go into the NAR It enables them to take their own ideas and their own opinions and Even if they're a narcissist even their own objectives and try to spiritualize it and turn it in Turn a an agenda into a Bible context

That's what is happening here. Brandham is taking the idea that people are leaving his cult and he's twisting it into a Into an agenda based on Bible context the sad part is there were so many people who were in the movement Who didn't read their Bibles?

They didn't know that you can read the Bibles and understand a timeline and it doesn't take a prophet or a Theologian to understand that timeline You just simply read it and you can read where brandham has gone completely off the rails in this case It is dangerous and that's how we developed into the mess that we have today So John everything we've been saying so far has just been to show you how how a man can take scripture and Point to himself or build a doctrine around Scriptures that he's pieced together that are not even in the correct timeline and

That's what William Brown's message did. It created the environment for men who are both some are godly, some are a lot of them are ungodly. It built something to place them in positions of leadership. You know, in order for Williams, Brownham's message to survive, you know, a tight group of like thinking men must come together to share the same beliefs. And then they're the ones given the power and authority to rule the people. And while he was alive, you know, he wanted everyone to know that he was at the top of the pyramid. And that's still true

today within the ranks of the message. You know, they put William Brownham at the top of that pyramid. However, when we when we turn our attention to the NAR and what's being done in those ranks with the apostles and prophets, you know, there are many now that they've opened the door to allow for apostles and prophets to come. And they've also risen to the top. So it's really no different in the NAR. It's just that they are not holding on to Williams, Brownham's message and the teachings that he taught to be exclusive that he was the bride of Christ. But it's actually they're holding that apostles and prophets

are here today to lead the church and also in a political realm, in a political way. So William Brownham created that environment for men to rise up because listen to this quote, this is from the layout of saying church age 1960 and December the 11th. And here's where he's building the case for himself to rise up. He says, we'll be looking for that great one to rise. He might come in my day. He might come in the younger day. I don't know. He might be right among us now. We can't tell the Holy Spirit is here to lead us

till that time. Then when this leader will take us over, he'll still be anointed of the Holy Ghost, the Elijah will, of course, that will come. But he will be the leader that will turn the hearts of the children or the hearts of the children back to the father's message, back to our Heavenly Father's message on the day of Pentecost when he pulled out his spirit. So right there in that one quote, and there's many others, and he continued to do this. And this is from 1960 on. And he wanted to let the people know there was a

leader coming. And I think if you listen to these series of messages of the church ages, you'll definitely realize he was referring to himself. He didn't want to outright say it. But of course, he got more and more bold about saying it, you know, as the years went on. You know, Brandon was priming the people to look for a leader with the spirit of Elijah, and he was ready to step in that position when he found that opportunity. You know, people were eager to accept him and anoint him as their king, priest, and prophet with a divine

message. You know, unfortunately, you know, Brandon's message leads you down a pseudo-Christian path. You know, where the word of God is put aside, overlooked in places, and butchered just to make it look like it says something totally different. And it will say something totally different. And we see that in the way he pieced together the story about the 70 disciples and about the timeline when when the disciples really left him. And that's about the NAR moon.

is also doing through their self-proclaimed, you know, prophets and apostles, you know, they're presenting really a false God and a false Jesus to the people and then anointing themselves to be head over the people, head over the church and they really don't have any authority to do that.

You know, the people are being told and to build up their excitement that God's about to do great things and, you know, and then within that great movement there when they're being told that God's going to do great things among you, then the natural leaders of that movement just start rising up and they keep the system going and they hope to eventually gain political power through this.

You know, I suppose Bramham really had no idea that his inspiration and ministry would eventually migrate into something like the NAR, but people who have observed his ministry, you know, from the outside, those, those charismatics in, in those world and that world and others who took scriptures out of context just to suit their own ends, you know, when they observed him doing it and they still thought God was working in his ministry, then they've taken that as a cue, they can do the same thing.

And so that's how he spearheaded this whole thing. So they still keep their facade of Christianity put on the Christian face and they gather a large following and while they're underlying motives and objectives are really leading their people to a radical politics.

So I think we can see that in seven mountain mandates, it's been written that the seven mountain mandates, you know, divide the world of cultural power and influence that Christians are to conquer into these seven categories, which is religion, family, government, education, business, media and the arts and entertainment.

You know, there's a historian, Brian Sears, he writes about the NAR, he says, key to the inauguration of Christ thousand year reign on earth is to believe that apostles will have risen in power to control or influence the leaders of the seven spheres of society.

And nowadays, there's a big political push, you know, for them to do that. Exactly. And that's where it gets so scary because what we're talking about today that happened way back in the 40s, 50s and 60s, Brannemism, it has actually made its way all the way into the political arena today and it's not just politics.

This is politics, religion and this foundation that wasn't really based on the Gospels. It was a new gospel. It is developed into things like the seven mountain mandate that you mentioned. We've talked about this in a few different podcasts, most recently, the one with Laura Lynn, the foundation for the agenda for the seven mountains mandate can trace all the way back to Brannem's mentor.

If you understand Christian identity, you understand white supremacy, you understand why they were attacking the politics of their era and understand more than that how they were attacking it and realize that both sides of that, the white supremacy, the Christian identity, both sides claim to be a...

Christian movement. That's how they presented themselves. They based like Brannemism, they would take Bible verses and they would base their agenda off of a twisting of the Bible verse. That's how the movement formed and began and attacked politics. Well, what has happened is, all of that went underground in the 60s. It started to reemerge with Paul Kane, Mike Bickle, and the Kansas City Prophets, where essentially Brannemism 2.0 and so many movements did not understand the Bible and thought this was a true foundation, but also thought it was this mystery foundation that the rest of the Christian world just

has totally missed. What they missed was the fact that this was a false foundation of a different gospel and that attacked the politics of the era. And so what we're seeing today, the era of the 1980s is starting to develop and grow into something far worse than even what they had whenever Bickle and the Kansas City Prophets began. But if you trace it all the way back to its historical roots, you find that it actually began here with a false gospel. So yeah, John has been a great episode. It's been fun to talk about this. And I think I just hope that people came away with the importance

of what has happened. And the impact this has made, you know, and I hope people have been able to clearly show, I hope they didn't get confused and I've been able to clearly show how, you know, Brannem has misplaced these two scriptures here. I just hope that by taking another place where he misused scripture, you know, we're able to show there's never a good outcome, you know, for doing so. And teachers, you know, all the scriptures have to be very careful how they study and teach the word. You know, where Brannem made use of the word for

his own ends and the doctrine that he came up with. He ended up saying things the Bible never even taught, you know, men of God like Gordon Lindsay earned backstern others. They tried to warn him not to teach, but you know, he ignored their advice every time. He had already decided, I believe what he wanted his legacy to be. And it was not just that God sent him to heal the sick, but it was actually to be a last day prophet of God to the bride. Once he could became firmly convinced that he was all these scriptures that we've been talking about, Malachi 4, Revelation 10,

Revelation 3, angel to the church. Once he convinced himself he was that, then he had to push for that legacy. And he used scriptures, you know, tied them all together to basically prove that he was, but it was in a way that was contrary to scripture. And we're going to search out many more errors of Brannem's teaching in the coming episode just by comparing what he said, you know, take the plain reading in scripture to do so. And that's really all the person needs to do, you know, is to discover these errors for themselves. You know, if you can step back from the message

and examine what he said with the word of God, you can clearly see it. You know, we've always been asked, you know, all the time and time again, we've all It's been asked to say just what, you know, Brannum says and just say only what the word says.

But you know, we find out John that when we do that, you know, then we get accused of being apostates. I don't think message believers can have it both ways. You know, because the Bible does say that a double-minded man is unstable.

So John, I'm looking forward to seeing, having another podcast and finding, you know, another message topic to talk about as we go forward with these things. I look forward to it as well. You know, so many different movements today that were based off of this have covered up their histories.

And when I say cover it up their histories, a lot of people think, well, that means maybe they had a sketchy past, they're hiding it, maybe they fell into some gross error or sin, maybe they had sexual problems in their lives, whatever it is.

I'm talking specifically about the doctrinal history. Many different theologies that we see today within the NAR were based off of a foundation that was laid by a man who literally had not read the gospels.

That's my opinion, he had not read the gospels. Or he lied about them. One of those two, it can only be one of those two. And so a new gospel was created from that new gospel developed many theologies that require that different gospel.

And if you understand that the theology that your church is preaching is based off of something that was originally built upon a false gospel, you have to ask the question, is it really Christianity?

Am I really a Christian if I'm in one of these groups that has built all of their foundation off of a false gospel, a new and different gospel? And that's really the question that I think you and I are asking here, what is this?

I can't really, I can't really call it Christianity. I know that there are Christians who are in the group, but those Christians have no idea. They're reading their Bible as best they can. Some of the people are truly good people, but they're in a movement that is truly not Christian.

And I think that is, that's one of the biggest mysteries as to how all of this has survived. How can a Christian be in a non-Christian group? I know that's the question that many people are asking.

So we'll get into more of this more deeply as we go, but if you've enjoyed our show and you want more information, you can check us out on the web. You can find us at www.WilliamDespranum.org.

For more information about Roy Davis and William Brannum, you can read the persuasive preacher, the gifted prophet, and the noble politician. And for more about the dark side of the New Apostolic Reformation, you can read Weaponized Religion from Christian Identity to the NER.

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