Serpent's Seed

Can you do it? Yes, I can do it. I'll do it. Here. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Hello and welcome to another episode of the William Brannum Historical Research Podcast.

I'm your host, John Collins, the author and founder of William Brannum Historical Research at William-Brannum.org, and with me I have my co-host, researcher, minister, and friend, Charles Paisley, the founder of Christian Gospel Church.org, and together we're examining the history and the intersections in history between William Brannum and other key figures that either influenced or were influenced by the post-World War II healing revivals.

Charles I've said at the past few episodes, but I feel like now we're finally getting into what I consider to be the really, really interesting things. It's, you know, the background of what's going on behind William Brannum's religious personality.

Now we start to see coming to the surface in other areas. If we look at the timeline of events that is happening around what William Brannum is saying in his sermons, that most people just fully miss, because as you know, a large portion of message believers are not allowed to be educated.

Many of them are educated in cult-related or cult-influenced homeschool groups, etc. I was one of the privileged children, I got to be in a public school, and I knew some of this history, but I'll be honest, even when William Brannum is mentioning it, because we're listening to these sermons over and over and over, it kind of just all blends together and you really don't piece together what he's saying with what are the current events.

But as you and I know, and as our listeners are going to find out during the course of this episode, understanding what's happening around William Brannum is very, very critical to understanding the decisions that he made and the quote unquote supernatural mysteries that he exposed, etc. And you know, like I say, I'm just fully, fully interested and excited to get into this show particularly.

Yeah, you know, I think for me the most interesting thing from all of this is, and I say to say, interesting in a sad, shocking and unfortunate way, is learning the true history of Serpent Seed, where it came from, what it meant from the people that William Brannum learned it from.

That really is for me. the most as a former message believer, the great takeaway from the things we're going to talk about today. So really we're continuing on in a lot of ways from our last episode. Our last episode we talked about British Israelism and how Christian identity got started among British Israelism.

But today I think we're going to talk about how the Christian identity movement developed out of the British Israelism and how it eventually found its way into traces of it into the latter-rain revival and eventually into the message and some of our other cousins of the latter-rain movement, John. And let me hold up for our listeners again right quick going into this book.

This book is really a great place to start for anyone who wants to investigate this topic. It's called religion and the racist right. A whole lot of what we've been talking about in this episode and the last you can find right in this book, it traces the history of British Israelism, the emergence of Christian identity theology and again just talks a lot about the exact same things we're going to talk about today with footnotes sources where you can trace and dig deep into this stuff. So I guess kind of starting out, Christian identity theology begins with a man

named Philip Monson in the 1920s and Philip Monson was a British Israelite preacher who became the father of Christian identity theology and just a tiny bit about him. He was a preacher and a teacher at a seminary connected to the Angulous Temple in Los Angeles and the Angulous Temple that was the Church of Amy Semple McPherson and during the 1920s it was one of the key hub churches of Pentecostalism and from what I've read John the Angulous Temple was the largest church in the United States at the time it was built. I think I've got a picture here of the interior I can

show. It was the largest church in the United States. It was certainly the largest Pentecostal church in the world at the time. So it was incredibly influential within Pentecostalism and a key hub from which a lot of its beliefs of Pentecostalism were spread and it was just a few blocks away from where the Azusa street revival happened and it really had a lot of connections to Azusa street a lot of the people from Azusa street ended up coming to their church after it was built. It was just a very influential church and early Pentecostalism was deeply into British

Israelism. British Israelism was publicly taught at the Angulous Temple and at their connected seminary and so Philip Monson is teaching at that seminary connected their church and while he's there he writes a book called Satan's Seat the Enemy of Our Race and that book is what historians generally agreed to be the first formulation of Christian identity and along with that book he published a magazine. I got just one of the covers of off his magazine to a magazine called him.

the herald of our race, and he published quite a bit of material, and it's fairly easy to get access to that, read it, and see exactly what his beliefs were. He's the man who formulated Christian identity theology, and what he does in his book, John, and this is very, very racist. What he does in his book is, like British Israelism, he does say the non-white races are descended from the serpent, but there's two things that Monson does with the genealogy of the serpent seed for the first time in his writings. He traces the serpent seed through Nimrod to Babylon, and he then connects it

to the Catholic Church, and then he also connects the line of the serpent seed into the Jewish people, and he connects the Jews to the serpent seed, and he gets to the point where he decides the Jewish people are in postures, and the tribe of Judah are the true people of Germany are the true tribe of Judah, and so those are really the two key things that separate Christian identity theology from British Israelism, those that tracing it into the Catholic Church and into the Jewish people. Right, and I think many of our listeners have probably already seen, I think we've done some

brief mentions of it in our podcast, and I've put some into the video feed, but that exact theology spread throughout the latter reign. The quote-unquote mystery Babylon from Revelation, it was heavily used in propaganda, and to the average listener hearing it, they don't really realize that this is racist, because if you open the book of Revelation, you see mystery Babylon, and you see exactly what the speakers are referring to, but all of the extrabiblical things that they bring into those sermons, that's where you really have to examine, because what they're bringing, what they're overloading that sermon to be, is very, very racist, and there's really

no denying it. If you look at William Brannum's theology, and just look at all of the mysteries that he quote-unquote supernaturally revealed, you're going to find that no, they weren't his own invention. They came from the white supremacists, and he was actually siding with the white supremacists.

Right, and so just kind of remember those two key details that Christian identity theology developed the belief that the serpent seed was connected to the Catholic Church via Nimrod and Babylon, and that also connected Jewish people to the serpent seed. Those are two ideas that were born in Christian identity theology. Philip Monson was the developer of those ideas, and as we go on, we'll show some quotes. William Brannum talked- this. William Brown, I'm taught this. And so Philip Monson, as he's teaching at that seminary in Los Angeles, he creates that Christian identity theology in the 1920s, starts teaching it.

And there's a strong Nazi connection as he's doing this job. And honestly, as you go through some of these books, you'll find that as Hitler is giving his speeches, things that Hitler is saying, quotes and things are ending up in Monson's publications, right? Christian identity in honest way is mixing Nazi ideology into British Israelism. And it is producing Christian identity, right? Like there's no, there's not even a question that that's what's happening here.

Philip Monson is taking ideas from Hitler, merging it into British Israelism and producing Christian identity theology. And at the seminary where he's teaching, he has a student. And the student's name is Wesley Swift. And Wesley Swift is the man who goes on and he takes Philip Monson's ideas and turns them into the Christian identity movement. There's a picture of Wesley Swift, what he looked like. And Wesley Swift, boy, I mean, we could talk just about forever about Wesley Swift John and all the stuff he did. But we'll just keep it to a short summary here. He's a really well-studied

person. If you look him up, you'll find biographies, writings, again, just kind of refer to some of these books that we pointed you to. But in summary, he was the cleagle of the Ku Klux Klan in California, Wesley Swift. And that would be the spokesperson of the KKK in California. He got really involved with the Nazis in the 1930s and the 1940s in addition to the KKK and became an important leader in the neo-Nazi movement. And he was spreading Christian identity theology everywhere he went. And he partners up with a man named Gerald Smith. I've got a picture of him here. I could show you. Gerald

Smith. Gerald Smith was probably the most prominent Nazi in the United States back in those days. Well-known Nazi figure. I think he is easily the most well-known most popular Nazi in the United States back then. And he's moving in all kinds of circles. And the two of them partner up and are moving together, he was a preacher too. And they're sharing and spreading this Christian identity theology all over the United States. And another thing too about Wesley Swift, he was a member of the Anglo-Saxon World Federation John. And we know in those same years, in those same

years that Wesley Swift was in the Anglo-Saxon World Federation. Gordon Lindsay was actually organizing conferences for the Anglo-Saxon World Federation in the same years. You know, this was a very strongly British Israelite group. And so it's entirely possible John that, and I think likely, that Wesley Swift and Gordon Lindsay- They were probably at some of these conferences together.

I mean, to me, it seems, it's pretty hard for me to imagine a scenario where that's not probably true. They were spreading a new idea to the United States, and these men were basically congregating together.

And remember, William Brannum's early ministry was sponsored by the Kardashian family, and Dima Shakarian, who basically rose up to be the founder of the full gospel businessman. They were also deeply into this British israelism.

They were in the same area. So all of these key figures that are well respected today, you're going to find them to be a part of this thing that had, in its inception, it probably was not as racist as it became, but the men that came out of this that were influencing William Brannum, and quite literally, that William Brannum copied and plagiarized for his divine revelations are very, very racist people.

And so Wesley Swift is, everywhere he goes, he's sharing his Christian identity stuff, which is in, which honestly, it's just another span on British israelism. And I have no doubt, John. And again, the history's kind of indicate all this that when he went to the British israel conferences, right?

When he was preaching at Angela's Temple, and when he was doing his Bible studies at Angela's Temple, everything he did, he was spreading these Christian identity views as he went. This was his thing.

And John, I'm not going to hold up all of the publications from these different men, because they are, it's really evil stuff, John. It's very evil racist stuff. Even the covers, even the pictures on the covers of their books is terrible, John.

But I am going to just hold up one of them here, look away if you don't want to see an evil racist image here, but I'll just hold up one picture here of the cover of their book that way you can see.

This is an actual copy. I have some actual copies of their book. So this track is called The Mystery of Iniquity. This is by Wesley Swift. And as you read this track specifically, which is one of the reasons I got this one, this has serpent seed in it.

It traces the genealogy to the different groups we already talked about. It's really evil, ugly stuff. And it's just a repeat of the stuff that he learned from Philip Monson, OK? And so as you come into the 1930s and 1940s, Swift was actually still a teacher and a preacher at the Angiolis Temple in Los Angeles.

And as you come into the late 1940s and early 1950s, William Brownham becomes a frequent guest at the Angiolis Temple. William Brownham goes there quite a lot. And Angiolis Temple is really one of William Brownham's key supporters going into the 1950s.

And I have been able, John, just through looking at some of these different things. I can place William Brownham and Wesley Swift. together at Angela's Temple at multiple times and so with total certainty William Branham had at least some interaction with Wesley Swift and quite a few other people who Swift had influenced as well and as time went on again Angela's Temple just become really really important to William Branham and John one thing I think everybody knows in the message there's a video about William Branham called 20th century profit I just got a little screenshot of it here

yeah but this video uh Angela's Temple was was connected to this video that was produced probably the after I would say that's even probably it's one of two videos about William Branham that's probably the more famous of the two the 20th century profit video and in that video William Branham is being interviewed by two men and one of those two men Lee Roy Cobb was the vice chairman at Angela's Temple who was conducting that interview with William Branham yeah there are so many as I was going through my research and you can find it in the book

preacher behind the white hoods there's so many connections to that church and at the time honestly I did not understand the full significance of it I could see as I was researching that was in my earlier part of my research and the book is kind of chronological so it didn't really expand on it so much but you've got so many connections to that church that were fundamental to William Branham's rise to fame it's not just that he was associating with this church this church was the one you know people from this church or who were influenced by this

church were the ones who lifted William Branham into fame and then when William Branham's fame began to decline they lifted him back up again with these videos so this is more or significant I think than people even realize right and and Lee Roy Cobb from that man you know from the 20th century profit video Wesley Swift was part of the same ministerial group at Angela's Temple as Lee Roy Cobb so Lee Roy Cobb you know beyond a shadow of doubt was was well associated well acquainted with Wesley Swift so these connections exist you know and and again I'm certainly not saying I know we're

not saying this at all that Angela's Temple is a racist church today or anything like that and honestly I don't know a whole lot about them today John but this stuff happened a whole long time ago before Pentecostalism had really rejected all the British Israel ideas but it is important to know that British Israelism was born with ministers and ministers associated with their church and to me it's important for one reason because Christian identity theology was born out of the Pentecostal branch of British Israelism right and and out of that Wesley Swift he actually went on and he founded his own denomination

It's called the Church of Jesus Christ, Christian, and it had at its peak dozens of churches all over the United States, John, and So hopefully our listeners and especially our listeners in the message, you know It's becoming very clear that the message is not the only place that teaches serpent seed, right?

And all of these other places that teach serpent seed are deeply deeply racist Yeah, quite a quite a prominent number of prominent serpent seed teachers came out of Wesley Swift's churches Arnold Murray is one of them He's a well-known preacher serpent seed outside of the message. He's passed away now He was a member of Wesley Swift's Denomination

Before he started Shepherd's Chapel, he was actually first ordained a minister in Wesley Swift's Denomination I want to say in the 70s. I'd have to go look that up to be sure But 70s or 80s he started out in Wesley Swift's Denomination, and then he eventually started his own church Shepherd's Chapel Chapel he became a televangilist and he's preaching John. He's preaching the Serpent seed on television nationally in the United States and he and he on television Connects the serpent seed just like William Bram did and ends up into the Jewish people, right? It's it's amazingly sad stuff and

And Wesley Swift's headquarters church, John and I'm just going to show one picture of people from his headquarters church And I'll be honest finding out about his headquarters church This was actually what started me down the path of discovering the origin of serpent seed was a documentary. I watched about his church

In combination with some things that my pastor started to tell me about serpent seed but He his church after they eventually moved to Idaho. Here's a picture of a rally at his church They eventually moved to Idaho. They renamed themselves the Aryan nations and this is the man right here who takes over his name's Richard Butler He takes over his pastor after Wesley Swift dies This church is still there in Idaho today and there's still all kinds of churches that that are associated with them the Aryan nations. These are These are terrible things John Yeah, these are really bad people really bad ideas really bad ideologies

doctrines etc People who know me realize that I'm going to be Seeing the Nazi flag that you held up my mind immediately goes to Cologne, you digna dad because of all of the connections that we have into The Germans the Nazis the connections to the message within but I'm being restrained because this episode we want to focus on the origins So instead of going down that path, I'll let you guys your minds can wander as you listen to this to the Nazi connection to the message but think back to Roy Davis and the clan side instead of the Nazi side what what this thing became is purely evil and

You mentioned them, neo-Nazi skinheads. The list goes on. All of these things that we see today is purely evil racist, terrorist organizations sprung out of this thing that William Brannum was a key component for.

William Brannum, make no mistake, was a key component for spreading this. For the researchers who need to understand that, I've mentioned this before and I'll mention again, you have to be very meticulous in how you examine William Brannum sermons.

Even in interviewing William Brannum faithful, you have to be meticulous in understanding the deception that was used. William Brannum did not introduce this as a racist theology on purpose. He introduced it without the racial component.

He basically is stating exactly what, you know, Wesley Spui, if all of these other racists were saying, took race out of it. And then followed up with other doctrines that were compounded and basically made this complex doctrine.

So if you take any of the two components, you take, you know, the serpent seed and you take the high breeding doctrine. When you marry those together, you have Wesley Swift's serpent seed doctrine.

And, you know, the list goes on and on. People who were in this message can probably pick up on this. But you have to, you basically have to understand the timeline of what they were trying to do.

How to mass persuade the nation to become racist for the sole purpose of fighting, you know, integration of the public school systems, et cetera. William Brannum was a key component in that he was able to do this under the radar.

People did not know that they were being convinced to be racists because he introduced it without the racial component and then followed up with the very, very racist things that combined made Wesley Swift's doctrine public.

Right. And this is definitely where we start to bring Roy Davis back into the picture, right? Right. So remember, Roy Davis had went to prison in 1939. But as we come here into the later 1940s, Roy Davis gets out of prison.

And as he gets out of prison, guess where Roy Davis moves? You and I know the answer. Los Angeles, right John? Exactly. Roy Davis moves to Los Angeles. And as he, as he's doing that, as Wesley Swift is kicking off building the Christian identity theology and the Christian identity movement as he is rising up the ranks in the KKK, Roy Davis is an LA at the same time.

And what's Roy Davis up to in LA, John? Maybe you talked about that. This is the part of the show that just excites me so much. And there's just this one period of time.

Now we're talking from 1943 to what is it, 45 or 46. This one period of time is worthy of at least 10 episodes. So there's no way I can even... possibly fit everything that happened in here.

But to give some highlights and to give some background to the listeners who may not have heard the previous episodes, there's some things you have to understand. Roy Davis, when he was William Brannum's mentor, as he was touring, he was at this strong evil desire for underage women.

And one of those underage women was with him at the heart of the Jeffersonville scandal that created William Brannum, basically established William Brannum's church, was Allie Lee Garrison, Roy Davis's, I don't know what you call her.

She was living with him as a quote unquote adopted stepchild, oddly while her mother knew and her mother was kind of involved with the church, she's living with Davis. Davis was a bigamist and she was, I think he was simultaneously married at least two other women at the same time he's with her.

Yeah, so Davis who denies all of this, denies that they're having any sexual misconduct, whisks her down to Mexico and marries her, emerges in California with her. And they had been previously touring through the United States as an act called Jack and Granny.

So it was a very, very widely popular radio slash stage act where Roy Davis and this little girl who's not supposed to be any sexual relations with him, they start out as a duo, then they get married and now it's this weird husband, wife slash little girl act that became so popular that in 1943 he becomes basically,

that he's asked to be the MC of the equivalent of the National Cortet Gospel Convention that we have today, it's in the state of California. There we learned that Davis was part of one of the original founding members of the original Stamps Cortet, which blew my mind.

So he is so widely popular among all of the religious people on the public side, on the private side and under the cover of night, he is this well-known, well-respected white supremacist who was the second in command for the Clue Cook's clan.

And he is, he and another figure, which I'll mention in a minute, are combining their efforts to basically create what would be and become the third wave of the Clue Cook's clan, the third pool of the Clue Cook's clan.

Another key figure that I'll have to mention to fully understand this is Congressman William D. Upshaw, who is widely famous in William Browner's message cult The guy that was healed out of the wheelchair in one of William Brannum's meetings.

And that meeting was in LA. And that meeting was in LA, who, you know, I mentioned did not need a wheelchair and had not since the early 1900s. And his, he actually was interviewed by the LA Times after he was supposedly healed.

And he confessed to the newspaper reporters that he could already walk after, and William Brannum, when he did this, he told us, over and over again, he told us, he had been crippled for 66 years.

Congressman Upachal was crippled for 66 years. He was a total invalid. That's a direct quote. Right. But he wasn't. But he wasn't. He could already walk before he even got to the, to the, to the, where the revival was.

And he was, and he was healed supposedly to be able to walk. So again, just one more incredibly suspect miracle that William Brannum performed, where the story, certainly what he told us as a crowd was not true.

Yeah. And I'm trying real hard because it's hard to contain all of this into one short summary. If you go to my website and you go, you know, search for William D. Upshaw. In the newspapers, just type running.

You'll find that not only was he not crippled and not in a wheelchair. He was caught physically running using his crutches, just lightly touch him to the ground. It was an obvious prop. The crutches were.

He had not needed them. I want to say it was 19 and 1915 or 1905, the date slips my mind, but he was out of the wheelchair long, long before William Brannum ever, you know, saw him as a quote unquote patient in a healing revival.

The other congressman in Congress realized he didn't really need his crutches at a certain point. And they started accusing him that he was just using the crutches as part of his costume to help him win votes.

Or, you know, illicit sympathy for votes. Right. And again, he's another one. We could do 10 episodes on him. People ask, and he's connected to the clan. He's gonna, yes, I was trying to get there, but there's so many interesting facts.

So much stuff. People ask, well, people say to me, well, there's no way that he would have pretended to be a crippled and need, you know, these crutches all his life. There's no way he would do this.

But you have to understand that was a part of his stage persona. He was a very, very famous writer. His accident, basically, that was what lifted him into popularity was that he had this accident.

And God was working with him. Everybody had this sympathy for him for his entire life. That was his stage act. He had the crutches, he had, they actually would carry him to the stage in a wheelchair, but he would stand up out of it.

He, you know, it was just, it was part of the act. But anyway, that aside, he was... The Clans Key Component in Washington in the early 19, basically from its inception until 19, what was it, 1922, 23, whenever the clan imploded, he is the one who defended William Joseph Simmons, the founder of the clan in Washington, DC, William D. Upshaw was his defense, and Roy E. Davis was with Upshaw and Simmons as they were building out the clan.

Davis mentioned that in a later article that he helped write the Constitution of the clan and the bylaws, etc. So you've got Davis and Simmons who were part of the original unit that formed the clan. They started this orphanage scheme in California to start funding the third wave of the clan. And they basically, in the trial aftermath that followed, Davis posed as a federal agent, William Upshaw presented him as such, and basically Davis is violating all kinds of laws. He has a weapon which was illegal for him at the time. Upshaw introduces him to a very

prominent figure, a Mrs. Usher, a very wealthy lady. And anyway, long story short, the two decide to spill this orphanage. And Upshaw becomes the head of this department of Americanization in the orphanage. And the clan's agenda was basically that America was becoming un-Americanized. So you had all of these very prominent white supremacy figures who were trying to Americanize the nation.

So they create an orphanage and they say that they have a department of Americanization. And during this time, Los Angeles had this large influx of orphans from the wars, from the, you know, there's different genocides being enacted and other nations. You had this influx of orphans in the state at the time. So they're going to Americanize the orphans basically. And long story short, they end up getting caught. And the scheme is basically they found that they were taking all of the money that the donors were donating to the orphanage. And they had two sets of

log books of accounting books. And Upshaw helped keep the other accounting records if I understood the newspaper artist correctly. And basically on the, on the books, the money was going to the orphanage, off the books. They were funding some unknown thing, which we find later was the clan. So again, that's a broad sweeping.

not even skimming the surface summary of what's going on, but you kind of get the picture. Roy Davis is in LA the same time Wesley Swift's doing all of this stuff, running a financial scheme to basically embezzle money through this orphanage charity and collect money through this orphanage charity to send money to the client. Yeah. Right. So this is definitely happening there in that time frame. And I think it's also worth noting, John, that at the same time that this orphanage is being built in the LA area that Roy Davis and Upshaws involved in, this is the same time

that the Sharon orphanage is being built in Saskatchewan where Laterane is going to happen. Yes. And that orphanage, again, we know through different histories that they were being financially sponsored by Angelus Temple as well. So Sharon orphanage had Angelus Temple. And I just point out too and we'll get to this clearly at some point. George Houghton was a British Israelite.

And George Houghton also believed in Todd, this racial, serpent seed, Christian identity stuff himself throughout the majority of his life. So there is all of these interesting things happening in all these places. And another thing to mention. So when William Brownham was at that meeting in LA and Congressman Upshaw comes to be healed, William Brownham tells us on tape that Roy Davis is the person who sent Upshaw to his meeting. Right. So again, we have a lot of indicators that William Brownham is connected back to Roy Davis. There's at least some kind of communications happening

between them. As you come into the early 1950s, you know, 1951, 1952, 1953, there is some channel of communications happening between William Brownham and Roy Davis because William Brownham on tape is telling us stuff that Roy Davis told him in recent times. So something's going on here.

I think here's where you begin to understand that there was more to William Brownham's rise to fame than just pure accident. This was a plan strategy. And without diving too deep into the conspiracy, which is very easy to do with all these facts, if you just look at the key players, the one, William Brownham would not be famous if not for the Sharon Orphanage. The Sharon Orphanage basically went all across Canada with him and they're basically creating such a hype on William Brownham and Canada that William Brownham comes back to the United States as a famous key figure in

early Pentecostalism. And if not for these guys, that would never have happened. And you've got him connected to Gordon Lindsay, who, like you said, is connected to all of this stuff. You've got key figures in the anglest temple who are helping sponsor him, and this seems to be where the racism is originating, at least with regards to William Brannum's own doctrine.

He is being, I want to say, you know, without, again, without using conspiracy theory thought, it looks as though he's being manipulated and controlled by these figures. It does not look like William Brannum is the mastermind, which I, for years, I thought he was just way smarter than he was.

He was just a person, he was a tool that was used by these people to basically become the public face to those who were skeptical of the white supremacy doctrine. William Brannum became the public face as a quote-unquote non-white supremacist to help establish the white supremacy doctrine for these people.

And I think we can say that pretty clearly without any conspiracy thought. Right. You know, when I look at all the facts and evidence around William Brannum's connections to all these white supremacist figures in all these years, and we've got more to talk about in this episode, there's a whole lot we haven't even mentioned yet.

To me, there's a whole lot of gray in there, right? We know the connections exist, but I'm still left with a whole lot of questions about things I'll never know. What was going on in William Brannum's mind as all of this unfolds, right?

But one thing I'm certainly comfortable in saying is that William Brannum clearly had clan figures and white supremacist influence people around him through these years. And as you come into the 1950s, right, to some extent, I think it's very safe for us to say that William Brannum was at least to some extent influenced by these white supremacist ideas.

His ideology was to some extent influenced by these men. That is beyond a shadow of a doubt, true. And because his time goes on, William Brannum becomes more and more openly racial in his sermons.

And by the time you get to the Little Rock Nine protest, John, William Brannum publicly endorses segregation, right? He says, he says, well, I don't believe in slavery, but God is a segregationist. And every Christian should be a segregationist too.

He says things like that by the time you're getting into the mid and late 50s. And by the time you get to 1958, William Brannum is finally publicly teaching serpent seed. And serpent seed really becomes a key teaching throughout the rest of his life and coincides, you know, as we, as we dive into some future episode, it's going to coincide with William Brannum becoming ostracized and marginalized.

Yeah. And the Little Rock Nine incident that you mentioned is very, very critical to understanding all of this. You have to understand. And when we think of the Ku Klux Klan today, we think of all the photographs we see of all of these big circles of people and white robes and a burning cross and they're out in a kind of a public field and a very, very open thing.

When you see those photographs, you're not seeing this era. You're seeing the early 1920s, early 1930s after approximately 19, I can't remember the event. It was probably DC Steven since fall. The Klan was deeply scarred.

They had to go underground. Basically, they were almost nonexistent. But all of the white supremacists, leaders who were backing all of this were not nonexistent, nor did their ideology suffer. So they basically all went underground and they...

I'm hiding out in the church in Jeffersonville, some of them. Some of them, they basically went underground and covertly establish organizations such as orphanages. I mean, if you go look through just read any history book on this era, you'll find that like the Louisiana Rifle Association was the front for Roy E. Davis's clan, the Louisiana Rifle Association.

You had orphanages, you had preschool type things, things that you would never associate with white supremacy. That's how these guys hid. One of them, they were certain, like, women's aid societies. Yes. I've read of it.

It's crazy some of the stuff they put up as fronts on their... Which was really just the clan, what it was. So what's happening here in Little Rock? You have to understand Little Rock.

If you want to understand William Brannum's deeper, darker secrets, you must understand Little Rock. What happened? Because in Little Rock, Arkansas, this is basically the event where William Brannum transitions from a white supremacist in hiding to a very open white supremacist in his circles of people who were also working with him and understood white supremacy.

Now, he also has sermons after this where all the white supremacy doctrines are scrubbed and they're very public and they're... He's speaking to people that would just be appalled if he said these things.

So if you search the timeline after this event, you're going to find both. You'll find him supporting the segregation of races and you'll find him saying that anyone who supports the segregation of races is evil.

You're gonna find both in his sermons. But in Little Rock, Arkansas, the United States had Congress pass this law that the entire nation had to racially integrate all their schools. And Little Rock, Arkansas blatantly refused.

We are not going to do this. and it became such a such a scar in American history. There were nine students who were black who decided we will not bow to these people, these white supremacists, we're going to school. And the United States military basically had to help these children in because all of Little Rock was so violently against the black people attending schools. That's how bad this was. The matter made it all the way to the Supreme Court. And the Supreme Court basically said this school must integrate.

They cannot be separated racially. What happened was the people in Little Rock, basically the white supremacists were in control of the city. They said, no, we will not integrate. And they stood to band it together and they voted whether or not they would agree to the Supreme Court's ruling. And it was widely overruled in Little Rock. So they said, we will not racially integrate.

That happened the day before William Brannum openly introduced his serpent seed, actually the sermon entitled serpent seed came right after this ruling. So he is basically standing up in support of these white supremacists in Arkansas. Remember the clan is underground. They're working under different, you know, different covert operations names, etc. There were federal agents who were in Little Rock planted as posing as white supremacists. And I'm pulling up a office, and you have it here, an office memorandum to the director of the FBI. So this matter made it all the way to the top. And the original nights of the Ku Klux clan, that is Roy Davis and William

Upshaw's organization, the original night to the Ku Klux clan. There was formerly the U.S. clans, the formerly of Texas, etc. The federal agent who's posing as a white supremacist was able to actually get a list of names that were members of the organization throughout Arkansas and Texas and identify the key figures in those two states. And what they found was that in Little Rock, and I'll read it here, all of the individuals listed at Little Rock are known to be members of the captioned organization, which is the original nights of the Ku Klux clan at Little Rock with the

exception of one person on page three. So the entire list of people were members of Roy Davis' organization. Right. And Roy Davis is listed by name as Imperial Grandrag and National Leader of the clan in this. This is one of the FBI's declassified official records.

of what was going on at Little Rock 9. So Roy Davis and the clan, and as leader of the clan, was orchestrating a whole lot of things happening in these Little Rock 9 protests. And here's the thing too, John. We can place Wesley Swift at the Little Rock 9 protests. And Wesley Swift was there. He, there were hooded clansmen at these protests. And one of the hooded clansmen at those protests was Wesley Swift. Um, we have that through multiple sources when Wesley Swift confirmed it himself. And, and that exact same time frame is when William Brannum is coming out and saying,

I don't believe in slavery, but God is a segregationist. And you need to be a segregation, all Christians need to be segregationist. This is the same time that William Brannum is starting to preach this stuff. This is the same time that William Brannum is bringing out serpent seed doctrine publicly for the first time, right? It's right here in this window that Roy Davis is mastermining the Little Rock 9 protest stuff. Wesley Swift is there too. And William Brannum is starting to publicly preach this racial stuff really for the first time. It's all happening at the same time.

In another interesting fact, if you just do a search in William Brannum's transcripts for Roy Davis, remember, he's separated from Davis for this time, period of time. When Davis was in prison, William Brannum basically rose up to fame overnight and I think it went to his head.

But after Davis sends the letter to Gordon Lindsay exposing his entire life story as a fraud, basically, William Brannum seems to come back to Davis. And if you do a search for Roy Davis in the transcripts, you'll find that as this event was happening, as Davis was basically rising up to be the imperial wizard, the key figure, the leader of the original Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, that's when William Brannum heavily starts name dropping, Davis. And you'll find him making statements like Roy Davis. Many of you know him. He is basically advertising his connection to

the imperial wizard of the Ku Klux Klan. Yeah, it's something else. And you know, the evidence is all there for anybody who wants to take the time and look at it. Of course, where we come from, John, oh, this is all crazy. No, this is not crazy. This is the truth. This is what really happened. William Brannum got serpent seed from these people. He got some of these things he talked to us and told us it was divine revelation from God from these people. And he taught it to us and we believe this stuff in the message. And you know, politically the KKK and

the Christian identity movement, their two main goals were one, they were militantly opposed to interracial marriage, just like William Brannum was. And two, they were in favor of racial segregation, just like William Brannum was, right? That's what- They were fighting over.

That's what the protests were about. That was the main subject of their speeches. And when you look at those two issues, William Brannum was publicly invocally supporting the white supremacist position on those two things.

In the 1950s, at the same time, you know, that the clan and Christian identity was. William Brannum told his audiences, God's a segregationist. You need to be a segregationist. All Christians are segregationists. He said that multiple times, John, across.

He didn't just say that once. He said that multiple times across quite a number of sermons throughout his life after this stuff, after he got involved again in this stuff. And we're going to have to deep dive into some of this in future episodes, but it really does coincide.

This coincides with William Brannum being ostracized from really the rest of Pentecostalism and becoming marginalized. It was not yet a cohesive union of white supremacists. Even though Davis was the imperial wizard and there was a original knight to the Ku Klux Klan, it was not cohesive with the United States when white supremacists in the United States.

When you think of the clan, you think of one organized unit. But remember, they had to splinter, they had to go in hiding, so you had all these little groups. And it was like this white supremacist whack-a-mole.

You could whack one group out and another would pop up. One of the more interesting ones that popped up was the National States Rights Party. Sprung up right after, you know, as this battle's going on in Little Rock, and after the Little Rock basically rose up in defiance of the United States Supreme Court, National States Rights Party popped up and they had a PO box that was post office box 261 Jeffersonville, Indiana.

That's William Brannum's hometown, Jeffersonville. Yeah, what's really interesting about that National States Rights Party too, John? Orrin Petito, who was the key leader in that, was the chief lieutenant of Wesley Swift. Yes. So, and they're operating out of Jeffersonville.

You know, it's all out, isn't it, John? Just, there's so many odd things here that it just makes you wonder what exactly is going on here. And I would like to take just a minute to analyze William Brannum's Serpentsy teachings and just kind of show how it relates back to British Israelism and the Christian identity movement.

And I'll just read two quotes here. Let me take one. This is from the very first time, I'm gonna read this one, the very first time that William Brannum on tape, publicly signal that he believed in Serpentsy.

And it's not 1958 actually, it's 1954, right? The first time that William Brannum actually share Serpentsy that he believes it on tape is 1954. And... I don't think he's being recorded when he says this, John. This might be someone in the audience with the tape. It might be one of these tapes that found it in the library. He says here, I'm just going to read a quote. It's 1954 questions and answers. Number one, William Brannum. He says, now here's a little doctrine of my own now. It's just church folks, see? Right? I don't think he

thought he was being recorded. Yeah. He says, and I'm just going to read. He says, I think that Cain was the son of Satan. Right? So he's, he's teaching, he's privately telling this in 1954 and just noticed how he said that, right? It's, it's very clear he's, he feels like, well, I'm private with my inner crowd and I'm just going to tell you my little secret doctrine now, right?

And you know, John, that is exactly how the racial components of Serpent Seed are shared where I come from, right? It's a private little thing. It's not something that really is done publicly. And this really gives us an insight into William Brannum was not preaching this Serpent Seed stuff to his big crowds, but he was teaching it privately years before he ever preached it publicly in 1958. And anyways, he says there that he believes Cain was the son of Satan, right? Which is exactly out of British Israelism is exactly out of Christian identity theology. And what's

interesting, John here is, you know, when he starts working with Jim Jones, those are the years that he publicly denies Serpent Seed, right? Yes. That's a big deal. In the years before he's working with Jim Jones, we have quotes like that. He publicly believes Serpent Seed, but when he starts working with Jim Jones and Jim Jones was all about racial equality, right? Yeah.

Once we get to the point he's working with Jim Jones, that's when the quotes come out that Adam and Eve are the mother of all living, right? He backtracks it, right? So he believes Serpent Seed, then he don't believe Serpent Seed, then he believes it again. So again, we just have to conclude that those quotes where he's saying where he did not denounce his Serpent Seed, he was, he was just trying to appeal to the audience of that day, which at that point in time he was working with Jim Jones. And I'll mention there he literally had to work with Jim Jones. His

ministry was imploding and Jim Jones and Joseph Mats and Bozay, we'll we'll get into this and I'm just aching to get there. So yeah, we don't want to spoil it. But, uh, Jones was well, well, recognized, even somewhat nationally recognized as being an open, um, civil rights leader. He, he loved the equality of black people and white people. He loved supporting them. His church had several key figures that were black. And you have to understand whenever I've heard black men defend the racist things that William Brannum said. And In their defense they say, well, I'm black. I know friends that were with William Brandham were black

but look at the key figures in the message. Look at the men who were in William Brandham's inner circle and you won't find one single person with black skin. Look at the cover of the voicey healing when they have all hundred evangelists. How many of them are black? Zero. There is not one black minister in the voicey healing fellowship. Yeah. What happened with, you know, again, it's a very, very covert operation. And if you examine any of the ministries of men who were not racist, you're going to find deacons, evangelists, ministers. You're going to find, look at their

photographs. I just recently went to Mishawaka, which was one of the well-respected, openly preaching equality churches in the United States. And you look at their photographs, you're going to find black people, white people, you're going to find black leaders in the church, white people, very, very openly integrated. But if you examine any of, not just William Brandham, any of the white supremacy churches, you will find black people in their church who aren't aware that they're being discriminated against. And they're also not aware that these are white supremacy leaders. And what happens is the white supremacists purposefully don't kick them

out because it's like the old saying goes, keep your friends close and your enemies closer. They want to control, manipulate. If a black person is in the church of a white supremacist, the white supremacists will try to influence that black person to influence other black people.

So their doctrines are going to change. They're not going to openly say, I am a white supremacist and I think you are, I think you're less than me. I'm laughing and that's an awful thing. I realize, but it's, it's just really, when you take a step back, it's just so funny, stupid that these men were doing this. This is how these men operated. And honestly, I denied it even after I discovered that William Brandham was working with the imperial wizard. I denied that this was a thing because I was raised to deny it. But when you understand the entire history, there is no denying it. William

Brandham was using his platform, his fame, his, his position as leader of the healing revival to influence white people to join into the white supremacy ideologies. Yeah, but let me take one more excerpt out of the serpent seed sermon and just point out what William Brandham is saying here. This is from his 1958 sermon on serpent seed. William Brandham is tracing the genealogy of the serpent seed here in this quote. He says, notice this now.

And out of there, then came ham, ham with his wife, and then he had a curse put on him, right? And, you know, according to the Bible, ham is the biblical father of the African peoples, right? I mean, there's no question you read the Bible, ham's descendants, populated Africa, right? And just like British Israelism, William Brannum is connecting the Africans to the serpent seed in his sermon on serpent seed.

But look here at this next statement, what he goes on to say here, here he goes beyond British Israelism and he moves into Christian identity. The next sentence, he says, from ham came Nimrod who built Babylon. And out of Babylon came the Catholic Church, the beginning of it.

So here he has moved into Christian identity theology. That's Philip Monson. That's Wesley Swift stuff right there. But William Brannum don't stop there when he's tracing the serpent seed lineage. Look what he does next. He says, come on down through a half, King a half of Israel.

Come on down through a half. That was Jezebel's husband. Come on down through a half. Come on down from a half into Judas Iscariot. Wound up the Antichrist. William Brannum in his sermon on serpent seed traces the genealogy of the serpent seed just like Christian identity theology.

He came through ham. He went to Nimrod Babylon, the Catholic Church. And then he comes down to King a half into the Jewish people, down to Judas Iscariot, the Antichrist. I mean he, this is exactly what Christian identity theology teaches. William Brannum is just leaving out the words black and that is it. And where I come from, the preachers will tell us this stuff publicly, not publicly, but privately. And they will tell us exactly what William Brannum told them privately. And maybe in our next episode we can get into some of that. But I think it's very clear here. I mean in

this sermon, William Brannum is undeniably tracing the serpent seed to Africans Jews in the Catholic Church. And he just does it without using the word black or Jew. Whereas Christian identity theology is very, very free in using those two words. But the implications are exactly the same.

And I don't even think honestly you have to go to the private teachings to see that William Brannum was making this thing racial. It was racial in the public teaching just omitted those two words. The problem I think people who are in the message, they kind of just accept everything as as it stated. And they really don't critically think about what's being said. So William Brannum is saying exactly what the white supremacists are saying in this sermon. He's preaching exactly the serpent seed. He's taken the name under the word black and the word Jew out of it. But he is

again, he's saying exactly what these people are saying. Unless you just really think about what he's teaching, it's going to completely go under the radar. But remember the timeline. He's making this sermon the very day that newspapers from coast to coast.

We're talking, I don't know how many thousands of newspapers basically announce to the nation that little rock is standing up against the United States government and will not integrate the school system. The white supremacists have now gained the upper hand.

That is the day, the very day that William Brannum basically takes his white supremacy doctrine that he'd had covertly in hiding, and he openly says, I support the little rock because I'm preaching this Christian identity doctrine.

Yeah, you know, it's something else. You know, for me, John, the ultimate smoking gun that William Brannum was influenced by white supremacists is the Serpent Seed doctrine, right? Serpent Seed came from these white supremacist ideology.

It was a racist ideology from its days in British Israelism, and William Brannum sermons on this topic show a clear influence from Christian identity beliefs. And you know, when you couple that up with the fact that he was acquainted with Wesley Swift, he was ordained a minister by Roy Davis.

It just it paints a picture. William Brannum was, at the very least, a man deeply influenced by the white supremacists of his days. And you know, we're not, we're not the only one saying this.

People have been saying this, John, for over 30 years, right? And the original way that the people arrived this wasn't by discovering that he was ordained by the imperial wizard of the clan, but was through Serpent Seed.

Serpent Seed. People, if you look at Michael Barcoon's book, you will find that he is speculating that there has to be a white supremacist connection to William Brannum, you know, decades ago. Yeah. He just can't quite place it, but Serpent Seed is the smoking gun evidence that William Brannum was connected to white supremacy.

The other thing I'd like to point out, I get this comment. I can't tell you how many hundred times that I've got this comment that why didn't people rise up against William Brannum during his lifespan?

Why are we doing this now? Why? Why not while he was alive? But if you look on the recorded sermons, they also make this argument against me. They say, well, William Brannum stood against hundreds of ministers who rose up against him and they backed down.

What they're hearing and what they're saying is exactly what William Brannum gave his version of the story. That event where hundreds of ministers rose up against him. William Brannum also said because it was, he was teaching Serpent Seed.

So hundreds of ministers rose in opposition to William Brannum because of this very sermon where he's basically taking Wesley's... Swift's doctrine, and he's making Wesley Swift's doctrine public among all of his followers in the healing revivals.

That's why hundreds of ministers rose up against William Brannum. Right. And I look forward into getting into those episodes when all of this unfolds, because these men who rose up against him understood what he was saying, right?

Whereas in the message, there is a disconnect between what William Brannum is saying and what he means. Right. It's like they don't, we don't, we don't, didn't grasp it, but hopefully we're connecting the dots here for people.

So you know, one thing I do wonder about William Brannum, John, I wonder if his white supremacist views were his true deeply held beliefs, or were they just what he was saying to appeal to certain audiences, right?

Because we know his track record was that he was kind of a chameleon. He just changed his beliefs to fit the audience he is speaking to. And so pardon me, wonders if that's what was going on here.

You know, was, was, was the William Brannum who preached equality, the real William Brannum, or was the William Brannum who preached segregation, the real William Brannum? Because like literally everything else, he preached this topic multiple ways and, and, and it leaves a little bit of a question in my mind as to who was the real William Brannum, but I have to say, for me personally, I lean towards the segregationist William Brannum being the real William Brannum.

Yeah, it's hard historically because to show something as, as historically accurate, you have to have some form of evidence, some documentation. And what we need to understand about William Brannum, for his own personal views, since he's dead, and he cannot speak for himself, is what did he do when he was not in his stage persona?

What, what was his life like outside of the stage persona? I can mention things that my grandfather said about William Brannum and some of the jokes that he told. And I could use those as evidence that William Brannum was a white supremacist very easily.

These, these were terrible, terrible jokes that I grew up in their part of my life. I mean, it's horrific, Charles, but that's not historical record. That's hearsay because my grandfather heard William Brannum making a horrific racist joke.

So I can't use that as evidence. What we can say is that off the record, off the stage act, off of the recordings, we find the statements like was made to leave ale about the serpent being black as the ace of spades.

Or to Raymond Jackson, we've got the sermon and I'll try to link it here in the description if I don't forget about Raymond Jackson, you know, basically taking the serpent seed lineage and expanding upon William Brannum.

and I'm private racial teachings. This was his off stage personality that was racist. There is no question in my mind, but historically the only two pieces of evidence that I can use are the leave-ail sermon and the Raymond Jackson sermon.

Yeah, one last important thing I think before we wrap up this episode is, I just wanna remake the point that these racial serpent-seed ideas were present at the Latter-Rain movement from very early on, right?

George Houghton, he is the leader at North Battleford where Latter-Rain begins, and he is the lead elder there. And he is deeply, deeply a believer in British Israelism from the start of this thing.

And he publicly taught the fully racial version of serpent-seed. And, you know, and it's not to say that all of the Latter-Rain sex, John, not all of the Latter-Rain sex were accepting of this, but a lot of them did.

Several of our cousin branches out of Latter-Rain also believed in serpent-seed. Here is the book that George Houghton published on the topic, here's public apologies in the late 80s. He preached this John all the way up through the late 80s.

After he's done been excommunicated from North Battleford, and he's more or less joined in with the message for the rest of his life, we, George Houghton was touring, John, with Perry Green, while he was preaching this kind of stuff, right?

So, I mean, we have this stuff touches every significant sect of the early message. We can put this racial serpent-seed teaching with Perry Green in his group, right? Through George Houghton, we can put it with Lee Veil in his group, we're to put it with Raymond Jackson and that sect.

We can put it with all these different ones. We can connect it. We know Ewald Frank had it through Cacao Faleep, who still preaches it today, right? You know, on and on it goes, you bear witness, it was in the main sect, right?

So, it's not just one or two isolated groups where this thing was being taught in this racial way. Every significant sect of the message as you come after William Brandham's death in the 60s and into the early 70s seems to have been teaching this fully racial version of serpent-seed, right?

And it seems to be somewhat private, somewhat behind the scenes, and when they're confronted and caught over it, they're embarrassed, they apologize, they pretend like they never preached it, right? And the same thing today, you know, as some of the stuff's been coming out, John, I know some of the message leaders are in full cover up mode right now, trying to say that this stuff never happened, but they are lying.

It absolutely was, it absolutely is. I, as a message minister, received private instruction in this stuff, personally, from minister, who personally received it from William Brannum, okay? I know what I'm talking about, I know what I heard, I know what I was told, and I know what this evidence all points to.

This is the truth. I don't think I've ever publicly mentioned this. I think I've mentioned it to you, Charles, but I actually get more criticism from men who have left the message than I do from people who are in the message.

I get attacked so heavily from people who have left. The number one thing that I get attacked for is this. They all want to deny this racist thing. I never forget when I first published the information that Roy Davis was the Imperial Wizard.

I was attacked so heavily that I actually walked away from my website. I told you, shared that with you, I've not shared it with many people. If you go back and you look at the old, you go back and look at the old blog.

There's a period of time, I handed my website over to another lady and she basically was running everything. She was doing the videos and everything because the attack was so significant from men who did not want me to share the racist stuff.

Even still today, I hate to say this, and I'll publicly say it, I've tried to walk away from this many, many times because I actually would rather not be doing this, but I don't know of anybody else who will stand and share this information.

This was a racist movement. There is no question about it. This was purely evil. It was purely against all the Christian moral code. This was the most vile, evil thing that has been in the nation and think of the consequences of this.

You cannot say that every group that splintered from this is a racist movement. You cannot say that, but what you can say is that every key figure who was deeply connected to William Brannum that created a movement, they all knew it.

They were all, think of T. L. Osborne. T. L. Osborne basically said that William Brannum was God at William Brannum's funeral. T. L. Osborne is the one who gave William Brannum the slave statue that we've mentioned in his den.

That's mentioned openly by the cult. These men knew that William Brannum was racist and like T. L. Osborne, who he became basically the face of the Trinity Broadcasting Network, T. L. Osborne himself was participating in this, giving William Brannum the most evil looking display of, I don't even want to say it, man.

This is so, so bad. This was a gift from T. L. Osborne in 1959. He brought that back to Kenya and his hand hard to live on one of the natives. He brought around the cops about all the couples that could take it to one of them.

He says, this man took a vow to his God not to speak, he says, how many Christians have similar medication to your God? And all of these men want to cover this up and say that it did not happen, but I'm here to tell you and I'm sharing the documents with you, this happened.

Absolutely, John, absolutely. And as it relates to the present day in the message, you know, the stuff, you know, what we're talking about is 50, 60 years ago today, and for the past number of years, a lot of people in the message are totally oblivious to this history.

They have no idea. They have no idea. Serpent seed came from white supremacy. They have no idea this history of stuff and there is a whole lot of people in the message who are absolutely oblivious to this stuff.

And there's even preachers in there, I believe, who do not know and did not know what serpent seed was about. I didn't know for a time. There was a point in time, which I was filled in by the upper leadership on what this stuff meant.

And up until then, I didn't really know. And it's that way with a lot of people, a lot of people don't know, but a whole lot of people do know that this stuff is fully racial, right?

So look at the facts, your audience, your audience, look at the facts, especially my friends in the message, please look at the facts and wake up for God's sake. Wake up. Which all is there's so much here, I'm kind of sad this episode is coming to a close.

There's so much I want to talk about. I think I counted 15 different side shows that I want to do. It's just revolving around this one thing. Roy Davis alone, I could at 15's a low number.

There's at least 20 that we should do on Roy Davis. But if you've enjoyed our show and you want more information, you can check us out on the web. You can find us at William-Branum.org and ChristianGospelChurch.org.

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