From Savitri Devi to the Devil to the NAR

Music Hello and welcome to another episode of the William Brannum Historical Research Podcast. I'm your host, John Collins, the author and founder of William Brannum Historical Research at William-Brannum.org, and with me I have my co-host and friend, Steve Montgomery, author of the converging apostasy, and a quick outline on hands-on eschatology, a matter of timing and agency. Steve, it's good to be back, and I'm really excited for this one.

I don't know if you consider this the climax of the past few that we've done, but this episode is diving into the weaponization of mysticism. And that theme fascinates me because I'm talking very much about the weaponization of Christianity in general, and some of the politics and some of the different themes that I've talked about.

Now we're starting to talk about from other countries towards the United States. So this gets really, really interesting, really quick, so very excited to get into this with you. Yeah, great, John. I like what it's here.

The whole premise I have of my larger berk about converging apostasy is, of course, just like it says, and since I've identified basically 10 themes where it's like repeated offenses. They keep repeating these ideas from early on, like Valentinus in 2nd century, on up to present.

And so mostly dealt with the three that we've talked about, which would be some form of perfectionism or leadism, leading to some form of demeaningism, which I know a lot of our listeners understand that, get some political realm, and then actually some different stances and different ways to approach the idea of a sacred purse, especially the right to be able to do that, weed out the no good guys and we'll take a hold of the earth and run it the way we want it to.

So this is going to be a big jump, but if you bear with it and follow what I'm up to, you'll see some of the ideological imprints on the Nazi party on Hitler actually are still out there and they haven't been eradicated yet, but they still have a little bit of an influence, sometimes being big influence on the identity movement.

So you get these groups and individuals. who it might be, Wesley Swift, who, you know, quite a bit about him, John Slash, manifest sense of God, Slash, a new age in some cases where there's a big mismatch of different concepts that flow around, and through that mismatch, which I identified the main reason that even happens is through ongoing revelation, which is a part planned quite a bit in the past.

So in my book, talking about 10 different themes, what kind of loosens things up and applies to grease through the wheels is this concept of ongoing revelation, so you can start with the latter-rained brother or sister, and they decide, oh, there's something better over the hill, the grease grass, the grass is green, or whatever you want to say, as they proceed, and before you know it, it's sort of a contest to see who can come up with the most outlandish versions of scriptural truth, and a lot of times even hop over that and get around it to where it's not scriptural whatsoever.

So I'll let the audience know that the sources I use for this kind of idea of today, and oh, and by the way, a title I came up with for, for what we're doing today is from Savachi Devi to the devil to the Nar, and some, no, I'm not saying she had a conference with Nar people and said, okay, look, you gotta teach this, and this and this, we'll all be in the same camp, and it's not a direct, hard-fast connection between the Nar and this woman, Devi, but you'll see that through several different movements,

for example, Christian identity, there's a thread here, a thread there that some people wanna take that big jump over into Devi and what she's up to. Okay, so I'll get into who she is, but first of all, I'd like you to hear the three sources that are primarily used for this podcast.

Okay, so this is by Scholar, and I think we've not briefly mentioned it before. What he writes about, if you weren't up to snuff and you know what he does, he's truly a Scholar and you have to really put Dr. in front of his name, Dr. Nicholas Woodrick Hifin Clark.

So he was very fascinated with the Third Reich and what he wrote is highly scholarly, but the panel sometimes can make you think, oh boy, here's in the conspiracy theorist or something. So the three books, a red one was called the Black Sun, another was called the or called roots of Nazism, which yes, many sensationalistic kind of writings and movies have been based on that idea.

And then another one was called Hitler's Priestus, okay, that's the focus of today, Savatri Devi and Nicholas Guderick Clark's opinion, functioned as something like a Priestus to spread in the many dangers and blasts from this ideas about Hitler in relation to the Jews.

So, in just in general comments about this, I would say that any connected tissue of similar teachings and shared sources is what allows for teachings on anti-Semitism in the devil or the devil reborn as a predate to exist in seed form from which they may develop, grow and cross pollinate.

And any of you views I would also join us, it's quite true that these movies will take a little bit from this side and a little bit from this center for you know if you get this horrible, horrible combination.

So I think that this mix and match kind of idea occurs on a continuum from just a little bit and sometimes you don't even know what the source is, what it came from, to somewhat there may be a little bit of understanding of where all these ideas come from and to they all out where they understand it entirely where the idea came from and they just happen to be advocates for it.

And all three of these are truly examples of dividing conquer because if you're talking about the Christian faith and you introduce, like Jesus said, a little 11, 11's the whole batch, you introduce a little bit of this, then you got major problems.

And this is something we were discussing right before you pushed a record today, John, is the idea of introducing and reconciling all opposites. That in its basic seed form is very prevalent in the occult world and all the way down to Satan's because they say that light and dark will be reconciled Christ and the devil will be reconciled and they just go on out with this kind of opposites connecting.

So I don't know if it'd be kind of a warning to someone if they're seeing a teacher, spiritual teacher of some sort, talking about connecting and resolving all opposites. Well, they may not all out be saying that we worship the devil, but they certainly have the principle in place.

Here's an example. Not that he's somebody you want to read about and that have a pleasant night's sleep. That's Charles Manson. He actually said, if you look not what he did, what it encouraged others to do, but quotes from him come down to the same thing.

It's God and the devil. He said that he just happened to manifest this more than some others who never took action on it like he did. And then, of course, you get to Western esotericism under the influence of Valentinus, the Nostra, has actually set precedence that were handed down through time for anti-Semitic thought and the devil reborn, and where did they go to this great source of all no good stuff.

And that is Helena Blavatsky, and also Savatra Dedy. And even to a lesser extent, to Jane Leade, and those she influenced through the laterane movement and the manifest sense of God, ministries. So if you take that idea and you say, what are four of the most prominent concepts that will lead to the devil reborn, and you can find this in Christianity or elsewhere, is to attack God's people, the Jews, that's already inherently a step forward to embracing the devil because you're commending those who want to do harm to chosen Jews.

Another one is what I mentioned, a universal reconciliation. This often leads to a white-washed devil reborn, three, the process of ongoing relation as encouraged by Jane Leade and those in the laterane and then are.

This leads away from the gospel once delivered to other gospels. Again, it doesn't mean they're fully embraced and yet, but they're sort of on the precipice of being more vulnerable towards falling on over to one of those camps, and just saying, oh, the Lord told me we got this new revelation, et cetera.

And then for something we hear quite often in the NAR, and you would hear this from various manifest sense of God teachers, it's that there will be a billion soul harvest to us from the kingdom, and this harvest of souls will happen before Christ is allowed to return.

Well, this happens to line up at the time like of those you're basically saying that they will receive some sort of a... an imposter, a leader, a new Christ. And these ideas were converged.

Now, when I was making my notes for this, I kind of forgot why I said this. But I don't want to spend too much time on it, but just to toss out something that Jesus said.

And maybe one of the listeners can see how it fits what we're talking about better. In Matthew 6, 24, Jesus said, no one can sort of two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to one and despise the other.

OK, so we heard it straight from him. And probably it's a lot of different ways that could be interpreted. OK, so just a quick introduction to Savitri Devi. She was born Max Emiliani, Portus, who lived from 1905 to 1982.

In honor of Savitri, who's closely related to the hitter god, Surah, she changed to an name to Savitri Devi. But Devi was no dummy. Sorry, I'm starting to get to my language arts remembrance of fifth graders.

Devi was no dummy, but she was deceived and deceiving of others. For example, she earned two master degrees, wonderful philosophy, one in science, and she received a PhD degree in chemistry. She promoted a mix, she was at the end of a convergence, a mix of Hinduism and Nazism.

And she became one of the leading members of the neo-Nazi underground during the 1960s. This was strange when I wrote this, but go figure. Just like Hitler, she was a vegetarian. And like Hitler, she loved dogs.

And she actually preferred animals to humans. She said that people who do not quote respect nature animals should be executed. So she's got a quick trigger finger there. Maybe due to this love for animals, she liked to see the worst easel song, which I'm sorry, it's not really a laughing matter, but sort of it is.

Okay, so in 1929, a German soldier named Worst Wiesel was shot and killed by Russian armed militia people. And the lyrics of the song go like, so this is a part of it. Millions of people are looking at the swastika, full of hope, the day for freedom and bread is dawned.

Won't go on to it now, but the idea of freedom and bread and can. acting that to something like the swastika. It's a lot of interesting implications. This is also odd, but can't wait to hear what you have to say about it, John.

In 1970, Debbie spent nine months at the home of her friend, Ben Swat, Francois, and then getting a close at French Dior. And Dior was the niece of the French fashion designer, Christian Dior.

But Debbie's personal habits become very annoying. She didn't take bath during the nine months stay. And she insisted on continually cheering garlic. After a while, the two friends cannot put up with the same arm.

So Debbie moved out with a lot of cats and at least one cobra. There's a few things that you mentioned in there that I want to highlight. A few things actually that I want to go deeper with.

But one of them, you mentioned the phrase cross-pollination, which I've used quite often. A lot of people try to trace the roots of doctrine and they find it difficult because there aren't linear trees that you can just follow to find where doctrine came from.

It's this cross-pollination of ideas. And one of the things that happens whenever there is a cross-pollination, people start to come together around ideologies. And so as a doctrine supports another doctrine and like minds joined in together, then it gets to the point where it turns into a movement and the movement takes form.

You mentioned the Billion Soul Harvest, which interestingly, this just came up in a podcast that I was doing a couple of days back. But I was studying the timeline whenever vice president next and I think at that point in time, when he was addressing the full gospel businessmen during the National Prayer Breakfast, he was saying that communism is attacking us and we have a battle of the minds.

We need you all to go out and fight this battle of the minds, which ended up to be in many cases in these destructive cults, brainwashing. So you had those agendas were coming together and those were political agendas, mixed with religious agendas.

So that cross-pollination began to happen. But where I'm headed with all of this is as this happens, as these people come together on ideologies, it turns into a case where they want to conquer and they want to forcibly convert because of the political themes behind it.

And what I find fascinating about all of this in your research, when you dive into the underlying themes of mysticism and how that works and how that propagates, there's this idea that Sophia will bring divine unity to everything and so they want to convert to their mysticism.

stick world. Well, the cults are fighting this. Whenever, whenever this ideology was spreading and William Brannum was spearheading the revivals, he was saying they're trying to form a one-world religion. And we must fight this brothers and sisters. I remember hearing this over and over and over. Well, I never really thought about the reverse of that. What they're attempting to do is they're trying to force up the reconvert everybody to their one-world religion. It is both the same thing, right? And it wasn't long after Nixon's charge. I'd have to go back and see the dates. I want to say it was the next year, maybe. They started pushing that

we're going to have a billion soul. They didn't use the word harvest. I think billion soul revival maybe. So they were pushing the same exact agenda. And when you look at the two competing forces, their intent was to create a one religion that conquered the other one.

Yeah, John, it's certainly amazing, as always. And sort of that contrast that happens with both of us, I know, and with other people doing similar things, is there is a linear path to take, and so and so was sitting under the teachings of so and so. So, okay, well, that's where Sam Fyte and Bill Britton got so much of the similar ideas. Britton was getting it straight from from James Leid, at least a lot of his eschatology. And his close connection with Sam Fyte, well, they just kind of breathed the same rarefied air, whatever you want to call it.

But yeah, Debbie was definitely in on a lot of those kind of things, just from a slightly different angle and a different point in history, a different country. So here for the next part, I just put this as again, excuses for the alliteration. Debbie's deviant dogma, because it was definitely yeah, okay, I don't know the deal, but it was definitely dogma. And it was definitely deviant. Okay, so she saw Hitler as the ninth avatar, meaning the ninth incarnation of the Hindu God Vishnu. Okay, so one of the concepts comes up with this quite a bit, is that we need to try to

bring out the idea of an eschatology when it comes to esoteric ferns. A lot of times so, no, they couldn't believe that because they just think after they die of being reincarnated again, it just keeps going, going, going, recycling souls. And actually Blavatsky and some of the other major writers, major thinkers talked about quote the final incarnation. And Although in the big picture, there might be thinking of a system, you know, looking through all the UGA's, uh, Kali UGA and, uh, all the other ones that they have.

The idea of this last culminating, um, uh, incarnation is, is what they thought Hitler was at that point. Of course, he had to rewrite things, but when they found like, oh, he didn't quite make it.

So here's another kind of deepened idea that Hitler made a quote, sacrifice for humanity. Yes, disgusting. It sounds like Christ. To lead to the end of the Dark Age, uh, aka the Kali UGA under the reign of the Jew.

This would then usher in a golden age. So yeah, you can see how that kind of runs, uh, parallel to uh, prophecies. We hear it through the, uh, the Narn others, uh, but with, uh, uh, devies on touch.

So speaking of touch, this was, uh, one of her major works, which has been influential, uh, in, in many, uh, aspects of what I think of as the converging apostasy. In her, the lightning and the sun, she says, and Hitler prophesied in 1928, uh, the new order. He said of himself, I am not he, but while nobody else comes forward to prepare the way for him, I do so. Now, you know, people those ascribe, um, uh, of course, the people that decide whatever. So I don't really know if there's, if that's, uh, something that can be verified, but it's quite interesting if it is true.

Another thing, uh, Debbie was relative from her embracing the Hindu idea. She liked the caste system where he had different levels of, of society, different forms, uh, of reincarnation as either a very low caste on up to, uh, the higher ruling caste. And if you look at Plato's writings, it's just a little bit of that there too. And, uh, in a, in a very general way, you can put this as something like submission to your apostles and prophets as we see this in the north, uh, very generally speaking, I'm at, you're almost at, you know, that kind of stuff. Another we talked about

this, uh, in another podcast, but what was known or is still known as Hindutva, which is a Hindu nationalist ideology that's led by India's prime minister, the Rhondrop Modi, uh, actually has some aspects to, uh, what we would say we have Maga.

And so I'll let people take that in the room with us as far as they want to. She also believed in quality control through eugenics. And another one that she might want to look it up if you don't know much about that.

And so some people have described her as being a pessimistic pantheist. Yes, there's unity of all life and all life is sacred. But she takes them to that kind of open door, if you will, into a reconciliation of all things.

And so if you do that and say like her, dark and evil aspects will be united with this colossal view of the whole universe as divine, then you end up with some ideas that are very easy to take into the whatever you want to say.

Like I've said, devil reborn. You know, whenever I left the random cult and after I discovered that white supremacy was so closely tied to it and then discovered Christian identity, my world was changed.

But as I'm studying all of this, and I go down in these different pathways, one of the pathways that I found was eugenics, which you mentioned. And it's really hard to believe that this was even taught in schools in the United States.

It's the idea for anybody who doesn't know it's the idea that you can improve the genetic quality of the human population by controlling the reproduction. And this was a science class and they would teach you this kind of stuff.

And what's interesting is the reason that I went down that rabbit trail is because there were actually ministers and revivalists who were trying to teach this as Christian science as well. And I don't mean Christian science like the cult.

I mean, like literally, this is the Christian way we should be. We should breed out the imbreds. And they use all kinds of derogatory terms to talk about this. But that was something that plagued the United States to think of what Hitler did.

And now you bring that into the aspect of all of this. He's doing much the same thing and where it gets really, really scary is many of the mind control techniques that Hitler is using are being used by ministers in the United States to try to do the same agendas.

Hitler just had more success with them. And I did the study on how Hitler was using the mind control and the people, the different techniques he used. And no, we can't say that we had concentration camps in all of this.

But what I can say is ministers were enthralled with the idea that you could control somebody's mind enough to get them to... who believe your ideology. And good or bad, some of the men who were and women who were preaching this way, they, some of them probably did have good agendas, but think about the ones who did not have good agendas.

Yeah, that's right, and it reminds me of something that occasionally we'll have a comment where somebody says, you guys didn't really define that, and I can't, I can just say, sorry for pastimes, sorry for those who didn't start from the future, because there's such huge kids of worms, but as you're speaking about Christian identity, that just comes up right away as not only who did Debbie, the influence, but who influenced her?

Okay, so who influenced her is not too hard to follow in some respects, because it's a blend of narcissism, Babatsky's form of the philosophy, and traditionalism, and that would, that would get confused quite often.

So the quick, easy answer, but there's a lot more to it, as it's sort of a Plato-based perennial wisdom that supposedly exists in all religions. And if you have the time to pursue it, you could go down the, the rabbit hole of Alice Bailey as being one that follows a lot of this stuff in the wrong word.

Then that brings us to another individual who we know had somewhat influence on Hitler and the Nazis, and that's Frederick Nietzsche. And Debbie said that she was markedly influenced by his beyond good and evil, another work of his called The Will to Power, and another in called the Antichrist.

Now there's another writing that really had an impact on her by Alfred Rosenberg, and it was called The Myth of the 20th Century. So this is a pseudo-scientific book about divine blood and racial purity, and it won't take much thought to see how that reacted, worked with the Third Reich.

Another one that's generally fits, but you can see how this one is acting itself out through Debbie and others, is social Darwinism. If you just Google that, you'll get a lot to learn about.

And basically it's the strong and the ruthless survive. Those who can't quite keep up don't survive. Another person who's quite interesting is Enn was praised by Steve Bannon. Without the long discussion, he was highly influential on Steve Miller.

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Okay, so those are a few of the folks that had an impact on David, although there was quite a few more. And who did see the influences as another interesting area to look at?

Well, she provides a doctrinal connected tissue to reach deeper into the world of violent, prone, Satanist of all people. But at the same time to those in Christian identity, the right and potentially to your manifest sense of God-based present truth ministries who are in the search of the next deep revelation.

She also had an impact on some new age feminist, on some UFO Nazi groups. And there's more of those than you'd imagine. And then on a person here, John, excuse me, I'm quite sure you don't know about this fellow, William Luther Pierce.

And he is author of the racist book or two, the more popular ones were the Turner Diaries and the other one was Hunter. And these inspired the Oklahoma bomber, in which quite a few people, I don't have it on that time, 130 some odd perished.

And then also the January 6th interaction of the Capitol, where you heard things like hang, so and so and so and so. Well, if you would read these two books, you'd find out that says, oh, the righteous will rise up and be poured upon Washington DC, where there will be many people hung who are not going with this proper way to see the world.

Another person. and who's influenced by Debbie is the omicidal, that means kelamo, nukamo, mystical fascist Alexander Dugin. Okay, Dugin is also interesting because he has such a big influence over Putin. So if you have Dugin influencing Putin and then take that back to the step of CB3 influencing Dugin, you had this really soiled connection which doesn't bring get to anything. So another thing that I found out about, which I hadn't read much about but it makes sense, is deep ecology and it has other names like deep green or the green movement. Not everybody involved in those limits is a

fanatic and dangerous but the ones that had anything to do with Savitri believe the world population must be reduced to more than 100 million and she felt that this should be done at any means or by any means possible. So that means let the star in star, let the disease than old die and allow for utilization or to be forcefully removed for the sake of the planet.

Another one, it sounds like you're talking about Charles Manson, people get these guys confused but James Mason who ran with all these type folks, his periodical or called siege helped to make Charles Manson a hero of neo-Nazi's Satanist. So there is who crops up again. Is this saying that the NARA is teaching this? No, but it is saying that if you put Savitri in the middle and you have a reaching back to the Nazis essentially and then you have folks on the other end of the spectrum who have connections with say Steven Miller and Steve Bannon and alt-right kind of folks

then and also a girl that is the the the Turner diaries and all the other things then which you have is an ideology in the middle which is really really out and out corrupt in one way but potentially very corrupt and already corrupt but if you get much worse on the other hand finally you get to in this group of people that she influenced David Mjant I'm not sure if that's how you pronounce it in YATT. I've heard him described as the most most dangerous man on the planet aerjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj

He was a violent neo-Nazi. He was very impressed by Debbie's delight and the son. There we go again with that one. He happened to call 9-11 attacks of heroism. Okay, so he totally approved what they did.

And then he became leader of the Satanic group called the Order of Mind, and it's not angels. It's the Order of Nine Angles, which actually promotes human sacrifice and killing of Jews. So again, that thing across a pollination give a lot of different ideas and being together and then people that are in the latter reign, literally, who take several steps to where they get closer to this sort of stuff.

You know, and the radicalization is insidious. We did some podcasts recently about Vance Belter, who was the assassin, who Minnesota, you can look up the news, I won't go deep into that, but the idea was that he was radicalized by ministers who were working with, or I think he was even trained by people in Christ for the Nation's Institute, which was led by Gordon Lindsay, who was William Brannum's campaign manager, who was also a speaker in Christian identity conferences.

So I was getting questioned by different news journalists, was he radicalized by these people. And I think what you said is key, I could probably say, yes, I don't know, there's no way to know unless I'm actually examining him, but radicalized to the point of an assassination, no, I wouldn't say that.

However, once you have changed the ideology of a person and you've radicalized them, they are more susceptible to other radicalization. So it's not a pure black and white trail of history that you can find how he got radicalized.

Now take this to the broader scale of what you're describing here. You've got mysticism, you've got politics, you've got the Russian agendas, you've got all kinds of different themes of ways in which you can radicalize people.

Each one of them, just as destructive, the combination of which is deadly. Yeah, and that makes me think a question I came up with from ourselves during this research was where it comes after the Third Reich, you know, does that mean everything's done and settled?

Well, no, for neo-Nazis, they still have this hankering for the Fourth Reich. And for that, this means a Western Imperium, AKA a Pan-Arian-World Empire. So, Devin and the Nazi-Statenist Miguel Serrano, Miguel Serrano, I believe it's pronounced, they merged this proponents of this, what is now known as.

esoteric chidlerism, like David Ebo and other manifestants of God-based races. Serrano said, there's nothing more mysterious than blood. The alchemist's self is considered a condensation of light. I believe that Aryan blood is not the light of a galactic sun, but the light of the black sun of the green rays. I know you have plenty to say about parts of that, John, but also I found this very interesting article, a very current gene, 2025 by Frank Leon's lines. It's L-Y-O-N-S. It's called the coming right-wing Messiah, Christamer. Leon says, quote, there is the unavoidable sense of something or someone great and terrible

coming. He said, quote, I am now more confident than ever before that it is coming to begin a golden age. David wrote that this final world leader, who she calls Kalki, will be the 10th avatar of Vishnu. He is equal parts of Sun and Lightning, creator and destroyer. The Satanist who we already mentioned, David Mianz, in the location of Vindex, as, quote, the Avenger, is inspired by what David wrote about Kalki who comes to destroy non-Aryans. I hate to say it, but every time that you mention the black sun, I keep thinking of the song, black hole sun. It's just going through my head

all the time. But you know, there's so many things here that my mind, when it gets overwhelmed with things that are evil, I go to my happy place and my happy place is music. And what you're describing, this is some scary stuff. We're talking about, I'm looking through the names that I have in my list in my head of all of the New Apostolic Reformation leaders, some of which you've mentioned are openly declaring a purge, but many of them who aren't really declaring it in public, but yet they are in private. Jed Hartley, who does the podcast with me about IHOPKC, he says things on the podcast that

my jaw drops to the floor, I can't believe that these are Christian themes. And what it is, these are men and women who are taking political ideologies that are very driven towards purging out any opposition, mixing it with Christianity, and then trying to combine this and say we need to purge the evil from this planet, not realizing, recognizing that they are a part of the evil that's on this planet and it all comes back to the idea.

Sophia is supposed to come down and bring this divine unity. There's different ways that this theme comes out in mysticism. Well, if you understand how that works, it's almost a summoning of Sophia. Well, these New Apostolic leaders, it's like a summoning of God instead of looking for Jesus to return. It's something they must do to forcibly call down the power of God. The two are very, very similar, but yet one is using the name Jesus and one is not using the name Jesus.

Yeah, that's right. That's why if somebody has the time to actually read the larger book, they'll see that they've divided it off into a so-called Christian version and a so-called esoteric version. And Alice Bailey is actually, excuse me, sort of the epitome of that, because several points in writing she would refer to herself as a Christian esotericist.

Well, okay, she's both. Well, no, she's not both. She's only one of those esotericists. Okay, so I'm thinking here again, excuse the title, but I just kind of got off the fifth grade teacher again. Is the alt-right, alt-right, or entirely wrong? Okay, so forgive me.

So I found this article by David Lawrence in 2018. It's called Hindu mysticism and the alt-right. Well, it's getting a lot of stuff from talking about, especially if you're talking about melting of ideas and ideas being brought into the Christian world, although on extreme peripheries.

So Lawrence says that Debbie's news originated wider public through alt-right leaders such as Richard Spencer and Stephen Trump's former chief strategist and chair of Breitbart News. Spencer jokingly deified Trump as an incarnation of Kalki, the destroyer aspect of God Vishnu. Spencer has also quote invoked Debbie by saying that white people are the children of the sun. So what a brown black Asian, I guess, not of the sun. Another very excellent thing, which I think he could still get this on YouTube was by Maria Margarones, is called Savatra Devi from the Aryans to the alt-right.

Again, it's right on center where we're talking about. According to this writer, she says that Debbie wants preyed for the Nazi victims of Nuremberg trial who were unjustly accused of war crimes. against humanity.

Debbie said, mother, dark blue mother, avenge them, avenge them, avenge them, the martyrs of Nuremberg. She followed up by saying, that's Debbie, it's saying, Hitler's only mistake what if he was just too kind.

And ironically in the letter rain revivals, Branham was saying, how blessed it would be if Hitler came and knocked at your door. I grew up with this. This was programmed into my head. It was supposed to be blessed if Hitler came to knock at the door.

And it's just, it's unbelievable when you think about the way that evil is viewed by the leaders in this movement is not the way that a normal human being would view evil. You would usually walk away from it and say, no, I won't know part of this.

But they almost glorify the evil. Yeah, John, it is astounding. There's something I hate to say. There's something I hate to say. But it's sort of true. Because I've been dealing with this sort of information since, well, it's been about 45 years now.

One of my biggest reactions at the first year, you get reactions like you just can't believe it. And then another one could be fear. One of this stuff really plays out. But not that they should dissipate, but they've dissipated in a certain way.

And the way that I can reconcile with my faith in Christ, that they have dissipated that urgency is that you can only do what you can do. And to be faithful to Christ, it is not fixing the whole problem which won't be able to do that.

And if you look at scripture, you really won't be able to do that because it shows sort of a societal descent rather than a societal ascension, if that can be said. So, since I've talked about Jane Leeds so often, the idea comes up.

Did she have ongoing revelations that would lead to the devil reborn? She does have some that can be seen as predecessors to racist ideas. But here's a couple of things that she wrote. According to the Lateran participants, Larry and Betty Hodges leads a revelation of the everlasting gospel message.

That's 1697. It communicates the message that full restitution includes the fallen angels. Yes, even Lucifer himself. Now, if you looked at much writings that are talking about universal reconciliation and all things coming together and And everything's going to be worked out.

The logical outcome of that is that, right now, what about those really negative evils sorts of spiritual forces? And of course, if you look at a lot of good writers, Christian writers, you'll see that you can't really reconcile those two together.

So here goes lead again. She says that God has both light and darkness, good and evil, death and life, founded up in unity and harmony. There's a colossal mistake, if you want to give her that much in those words.

Then to get right to the lettering folks, this again is one step closer to anti-Semitic ideas and these so-called devilary born. And I just say that it's lettering prophets influenced by Jane Leeds practice of ongoing revelation.

You have George Houghton, highly influential. He says, a children born of mixed couples are mongrels. He says some other stuff, putting a time can get us into that right here. Jay Prestoniewi, another one influenced by Lee.

God is both good and evil, male and female. He also said that Jesus called himself Lucifer, very strange, but I guess it has a recent summer role-crown quest. He taught something to a lot of racist teach.

And that's about the pre-ademic man, Bill Burton, altered Lucifer, the shining one. And he also taught that Jesus is not a Jew. David Ebaugh taught about the sin of usually, which is a colossal red flag.

If you want to put it like that, of an inter-Jewish thought. You have a constantly talking about usually. Ray Prince said this, we should see no evil in Satan, here's only an instrument in the hands of God.

Now, he happened to be another one of those present truth manifestants of God-based teachers who came out of the lettering. There you have it. Ruling plates were fixed up, fit that same description, coming out of the lettering.

So, Pete says, Jesus will harmonize the two realms through himself, including all who follow Satan to make a perfect new order. And there you have it. That's the manifestation of the Sophia's one world order, the perfect harmony that is supposed to come down with mysticism.

And I run... Unically the same exact thing, the thing in A.R. claims that they can do, if through militant, pushing through politics and controlling governments and all of this mess that we see in Washington today, the end game is the same.

They want the same so-called harmony and look what it has caused, wars and discrimination and hate riots. This is not a good thing, but each side thinks that they're doing the work of whatever is their God or Goddess.

Yeah, and that leads me to just kind of sum up if we can do that going back to where we began, which is Savitri Devi, because, again, probably or highly unlikely, likely you're going to run into another person who says, oh, you have, I've studied Savitri's stuff.

Oh, she's great. What you have is you have people with sort of stepping stones, and that's what I'm thinking of, connective tissue, where you can go from the NAR and then to slightly deeper teachings that might be manifest as sons of God teachers.

Oh, and Kevin and Barb Cyste, if you find there, she's recently, they have recently set up a new podcast on YouTube, and they deal with this, it's very interesting, very powerful stuff they're going with.

So, but it leads back to the beginning where I was talking about V.T.T. and that is this conversions of taking the way, way deep stuff, slightly deep stuff, moderately deep stuff, and then having these roads or rungs on the ladder for you to follow.

So, I put in that is the bridge to identity Christianity, is a bridge to the Devil Reborn. It's supported by ongoing revelations. So, I found this article very fascinating. I've referenced it before, but it's by Viola Larsen, it's called Christian Identity, a so-called Christian religion for white races, 1992.

She writes that since many identity inherits, looked for so-called new truths, they come to identity from teaching of the man of the sons of God ministries. That is a mouthful there, but it really, really gets down to the nitty gritty of what I'm talking about.

So, this identity is an area that's receiving ideas from folks like Savitri, and Larsen also says that the identity movement can largely be traced to one man, Wesley A. Swift. Why is this significant?

because Swift stood at a crossroads between manifestants of God teachings and full-blown anti-Semitic devil-friendly occult-inspired ideas. Now this last quote is just, I keep on reaching my head and say, where did he pick this one up? But here's an example of Swift. He says in his teaching called the Heavenly Light, that the quote, mystery of law unites two opposites, one of satanic power, and one of divine power, and they will come together in conjunction. Now he might as well be writing a newsletter for Alistair Crowley when he's talking about that. I really, really don't know where he

got it. I can see what it sounds like, and like I said, I have no idea really understanding where he got that. Yeah, and oddly, I'm thinking back through the things that I believe growing up.

And we were taught that the two, the phrase that came from the Bible, the two would be so close, so to see the elected. We gave far too much power to that side that it's supposed to be so close.

To the extent that we believe that it would deceive the very elected. And we thought it was real power. It was kingdom power, whatever you want to call it. Now I use kingdom loosely there because John Wimber said that these people who are clearly devils, wolves and sheep's clothing, who are praying upon people, he says that they're having the real thing because they're tapping into that kingdom power. And that's the exact thing we're talking about here. It's the convergence of good and evil. And some of the leaders in the movement have claimed for many years that

the, when you mix those two, it's okay because there's still some good mixed in with it. And I always go back to the fact that if I were serving my kids a birthday cake and somebody told me they put just a little bit of cyanide in one corner, you can eat the rest but that corner, I'm like, no, I'm not going to let my kids eat that. And that's what we have here. So thank you so much for doing this. No problems. I enjoyed it.

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