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Podcast Episode

Escaping The Cave: Pia Hugo On Harvest Rock, and Spiritual Abuse

John and Pia Hugo discuss Pia's experiences in Harvest Rock Church, her reflections on New Apostolic Reformation culture, and the long-term effects of spiritual abuse, authoritarian leadership, and enforced submission...

2026, April 27 00:58:19 14 tags

John and Pia Hugo discuss Pia's experiences in Harvest Rock Church, her reflections on New Apostolic Reformation culture, and the long-term effects of spiritual abuse, authoritarian leadership, and enforced submission. The conversation explores how control can shape a person's thinking, how fear and loyalty keep people inside harmful systems, and why listening to conscience matters when something feels wrong.

They also examine spiritual covering, apostolic authority, charismatic culture, YWAM, deconstruction, and recovery after religious harm. Pia connects her personal journey to her present work serving abused women and children in the Philippines, while John adds historical context about Pentecostal and charismatic movements, religious control, and the patterns that repeat across generations.

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